U Said: There was no Heaven then during David’s time...
I could argue that there was indeed a heaven, but Man just did not have access to it, but that would be a pretty moot point.
U Said: but David knew that Jesus would come and save him..and he was looking towards that time and knew Jesus was coming..just as Abraham knew Jesus was coming and looked for ward to His coming...they looked towards the cross... and the coming Messiah...they both knew that when Jesus came they would get out of Hell and go to Heaven to be with Jesus..
Interesting, you do realize that Acts indeed all the Gospels were written after the fact, sometimes by, many decades, right?
U Said: The power of God was so strong when Jesus rose again that the dead saints arose and came out of their graves and walked about the city... Matthew 27:52, 53 so you are correct in pointing out what David said about himself, that he would not stay in Hell
The dead saints arising when Jesus did proves that scripture, but it is all over now...that was for people who died before Jesus rose from the dead...but that is not for us today....Jesus has come and died for us and all we have to do is believe on Him and be saved and go to heaven or chose not to believe and be damned and go to Hell... Mark 16:16
Now we live in another dispensation than David and so we can look back to the cross and the finished work of Jesus..knowing that if we believe we shall be saved and go to Heaven and if we do not believe we shall not be saved but be damned and we shall go to Hell when we die...Mark 16:16
Thank you for your perspective, it was very interesting.
You do realize that the Acts of the apostles was not written until after Jesus' resurrection, yet peter says " 29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulcher is with us unto this day."
Acts 2:29 Mormons take this to mean that David is still in hell at this time and will still be released later, at the "Final Judgment" which Mormons do not believe has happened yet. Understand I am not arguing, I am just telling you what we believe. since I asked you, it's only fair. Mormons believe that David will never achieve the Highest degree of Glory because of his committing adultery and murder, but will not stay in hell because he repented for the rest of his life.
Personally, I am not worried because, my will requires that I be buried with one of these:
I can see it now:
(I hope you know this is humor...)
Mormons believe that David will never achieve the Highest degree of Glory because of his committing adultery and murder, but will not stay in hell because he repented for the rest of his life.
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There is only one heaven, one level...There are not high and low levels of Glory...the Glory is the Glory of the Lamb of God and there is only one Lamb
David is going to be at the throne of God worshipping the Lamb of God with the rest of us, dancing and singing and having a glorious time
David is listed in the Book of Hebrews as one whose faith pleased God and he is given to us as an example of how to have faith in God Hebrews 11:32
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Acts 2:29 Mormons take this to mean that David is still in hell at this time and will still be released later, at the “Final Judgment” which Mormons do not believe has happened yet. Understand I am not arguing, I am just telling you what we believe.
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I understand that you use this scripture and others to attempt to prove that if you dont work your way into Heaven you can always wait for a descendant to get water baptized in your name and get you out of Hell...although such belief is heresy..
You forgot the rest of the scriptures where Peter spoke about David knowing that Jesus would come and die for him and he believed what God had told him...Acts 2:30, 31
And looking at v31 ...just who is David talking about ???
He (David) seeing this before spoke of the resurrection of Christ, that His soul would not be left in Hell, neither his flesh did see coruption...
Now I had written earlier that it was Jesus that David was talking about and then I changed it because i knew you would argy bargy and pull out your mormon talking points when all the time not knowing what you were saying but just repeating whatever you were told to say...just like a puppet...
This is how it is...
Unless you repent and are saved BEFORE you die you will die and go to Hell and theres no getting into Heaven after that...David was talking about Jesus in v31 not you and not your long dead relatives. If they died unsaved they went to Hell and theres no getting into Heaven from there Luke 16:19-31 Abraham in “Abraham’s Bosom speaking to a man in Hell “...between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot, neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence” Luke 16:26
All the way through that passage Act 2:14-36, whenever Peter quotes David, David is speaking about Jesus being in Hell not David himself...
David says.....
Because you wilt not leave my soul in Hell and neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption v27
He (David) seeing this before spoke of the resurrection of Christ, that His soul would not be left in Hell, neither his flesh did see coruption...v31
David is talking about Jesus , the fruit of his loins, his descendant, not David himself...David talks about his flesh not corrupting (rotting) but you claim David was STILL in his brave after 1,000 years so his flesh had to have rotted...Even Lazarus the brother of mary and Martha stunk and was rotting after only FOUR DAYS John 11:39 so we know that the bodies of men of God decomposed over time...
But Jesus never rotted in the grave and His flesh was not corrupted...and His soul was not left in Hell
So unless you are Jesus you are not coming out of Hell and neither are your long dead relatives...Do you have uncorruptable flesh ???
You either believe and repent now and get saved before you die and go to Heaven or you will be damned and go to hell...Mark 16:16
