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Evangelicals Against Mitt
The American Spectator ^ | 1/3/2008 | Carrie Sheffield

Posted on 01/08/2008 4:09:13 PM PST by tantiboh

Mitt Romney is facing an unexpected challenge in Iowa from rival Mike Huckabee, who has enjoyed a groundswell of support from religious voters, particularly evangelical Christians wary of the clean-cut former Massachusetts governor because of his Mormon religion.

The common worry among evangelicals is that if Romney were to capture the White House, his presidency would give legitimacy to a religion they believe is a cult. Since the LDS church places heavy emphasis on proselytizing -- there are 53,000 LDS missionaries worldwide -- many mainstream Christians are afraid that Mormon recruiting efforts would increase and that LDS membership rolls would swell.

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THE ONLY PROBLEM with those fears is that they don't add up. Evangelicals may be surprised to learn that the growth of church membership in Massachusetts slowed substantially during Romney's tenure as governor. In fact, one could make the absurdly simplistic argument that Romney was bad for Mormonism.

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ONE WAY TO GAUGE what might happen under a President Romney would be to look at what happened during the period of the 2002 Olympic Winter Games. Held in Salt Lake City, they were dubbed the "Mormon Olympics."

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Despite all the increased attention, worldwide the Church grew only slightly, and in fact in the year leading up to the games the total number of congregations fell. Overall, from 2000 to 2004, there was a 10.9 percent increase in memberships and a 3.6 percent increase in congregations.

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The LDS church is likely to continue its current modest-but-impressive growth whether or not Romney wins the White House. Perhaps the only real worry for evangelicals is that, if elected, the former Massachusetts governor will demonstrate to Americans that Mormons don't have horns.

Carrie Sheffield, a member of the LDS Church, is a writer living in Washington, D.C.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: election; ia2008; lds; mormon; romney
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To: tantiboh

You’re getting to the point of needing to wipe yourself.


781 posted on 01/24/2008 5:19:18 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: DarthVader; Das Outsider; Star Traveler

OVER HERE!!!


782 posted on 01/24/2008 5:27:39 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: tantiboh

No these guys are even more blunt than those of us you have been dealing with.


783 posted on 01/24/2008 5:28:02 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Check this thread out and prepare for war against the heretic.


784 posted on 01/24/2008 5:28:53 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: DarthVader

Excellent, thanks. Now, you’ve included Baptists and Southern Baptists in your list. I earlier referenced the Westboro Baptist Church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church). You responded that they are “false prophets” and a “cult.” Now, I understand that they are not recognized as part of any larger convention or organization, but they self-identify as Baptists.

What I’m interested to know is why you consider Westboro Baptist Church to be a cult?

~”Of course any Mormon refutation of this...”~

I don’t care to refute it. I’m not interested in attacking those denominations, and I think that they are all composed of good Christians. I’m just trying to understand your viewpoint.


785 posted on 01/24/2008 5:35:01 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: tantiboh

Westboro Baptist church is a cult


786 posted on 01/24/2008 5:36:05 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: DarthVader

~”No these guys are even more blunt than those of us you have been dealing with.”~

Do you -really- think anybody’s going to come up with anything we haven’t seen? You, DarthVader, are the exception merely by virtue of the fact that you usually present no rationale for your viewpoints; your invective is nothing particularly remarkable.

The more you rail, the more I laugh.


787 posted on 01/24/2008 5:37:47 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: DarthVader

~”Westboro Baptist church is a cult”~

Why? Please explain your reasoning. I’d love to understand what they do or say that earns them the loathsome mark with which you’ve branded them.


788 posted on 01/24/2008 5:39:08 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: tantiboh

They call themselves Baptists and are denounced by the Baptists as a cult. What you say is true about them. The church is made up of strictly family members and no outsiders. The main figure is their father arch-heretic Fred Phelps who is like their Joseph Smith. They are deluded by similar doctrines about themselves being a restored superior Church as you guys do. The same heresy but they lack the size, organization and polish that you guys do.


789 posted on 01/24/2008 5:43:50 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: DarthVader; Elsie

790 posted on 01/24/2008 5:45:20 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: DarthVader

~”They call themselves Baptists and are denounced by the Baptists as a cult.”~

Interesting. So, is being denounced by the Baptists as a cult your sole criteria as to which sects are cults and which are not?


791 posted on 01/24/2008 5:45:33 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: tantiboh

There is no need to present rationale that has been archived and documented ad-nauseum. There are hundreds and thousands of documents that have proven the facts of Mormon heresy and its cult status. There are many witnesses of former members of your church who have labeled it a cult and heretical movement. The evidence is overwhelming against you and you are outlaws. We are not here to jest with you but to tell you to repent or perish.


792 posted on 01/24/2008 5:51:04 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: tantiboh

Laugh at 2 Peter 2.


793 posted on 01/24/2008 5:52:44 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: DarthVader

~”Laugh at 2 Peter 2.”~

From my perspective, you’re the one laughing at it - Mormons are the only ones actually paying attention to it.


794 posted on 01/24/2008 5:55:30 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: DarthVader

~”The evidence is overwhelming against you and you are outlaws.”~

Outlaws?? Woah-ho! I’ve been called many things, but ‘outlaw’ is a new one!

Congratulations on your originality!


795 posted on 01/24/2008 5:57:31 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: tantiboh

Bull you are because you obey the Book Of Mormon. 2 Peter 2 is written with you people in mind in specific as you are the biggest organized cult in the world. You deny the original Bible and your heretical prophet Joseph Smith suffered a false prophet’s death as an example to be feared. Read post#741


796 posted on 01/24/2008 6:00:11 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: DarthVader; Star Traveler; Das Outsider

Though Mr. Romney is part of a non-Christian
religion known for their good, honest, caring
people, it is apparent from this thread that
Mormons aren’t interested in YOU unless you
are interested in adding credits to their go
to heaven account by getting baptised.


797 posted on 01/24/2008 6:02:42 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Thats right Jo it is called counterfeit Christianity.


798 posted on 01/24/2008 6:04:11 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: DarthVader

According to a Mormon poster on another thread it is
demeaning and silly of me to use Scripture to defend
my position.

That said... what are the rules of engagement on this
thread?


799 posted on 01/24/2008 6:06:55 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: tantiboh

You don’t pay attention to 2 Peter 2 because you renounce the Bible and undermine its absolute authority in matters of the faith. You use double-speak.


800 posted on 01/24/2008 6:08:06 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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