I see you are giving lessons in manners again, resty.
Posted on 01/08/2008 4:09:13 PM PST by tantiboh
Mitt Romney is facing an unexpected challenge in Iowa from rival Mike Huckabee, who has enjoyed a groundswell of support from religious voters, particularly evangelical Christians wary of the clean-cut former Massachusetts governor because of his Mormon religion.
The common worry among evangelicals is that if Romney were to capture the White House, his presidency would give legitimacy to a religion they believe is a cult. Since the LDS church places heavy emphasis on proselytizing -- there are 53,000 LDS missionaries worldwide -- many mainstream Christians are afraid that Mormon recruiting efforts would increase and that LDS membership rolls would swell.
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THE ONLY PROBLEM with those fears is that they don't add up. Evangelicals may be surprised to learn that the growth of church membership in Massachusetts slowed substantially during Romney's tenure as governor. In fact, one could make the absurdly simplistic argument that Romney was bad for Mormonism.
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ONE WAY TO GAUGE what might happen under a President Romney would be to look at what happened during the period of the 2002 Olympic Winter Games. Held in Salt Lake City, they were dubbed the "Mormon Olympics."
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Despite all the increased attention, worldwide the Church grew only slightly, and in fact in the year leading up to the games the total number of congregations fell. Overall, from 2000 to 2004, there was a 10.9 percent increase in memberships and a 3.6 percent increase in congregations.
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The LDS church is likely to continue its current modest-but-impressive growth whether or not Romney wins the White House. Perhaps the only real worry for evangelicals is that, if elected, the former Massachusetts governor will demonstrate to Americans that Mormons don't have horns.
Carrie Sheffield, a member of the LDS Church, is a writer living in Washington, D.C.
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She was an attorney.....
A job that sucks off the government. A leech. “
Oh you mean a job in the private sector...
I dont know who was paying Hillary...
I dont think the Democrats will care..
Both Hillary and Obama have promised your paycheck to the “very poor”
:)
Fonda was memorable in it but I’ll bet the music score had a lot to do with your opinion of the movie.
You got THAT right. If allowed, a flip-flopping, lying liberal will take his lying flip-flopping, Planned Parenthood and nationalized medicine loving into the White House and give the nation the kind of liberal agenda he gave MA.
Black people are the same as you...
“Every day, in every way;
We’re getting whiter and whiter...”
I put it that way to alert the “delightsome and white” that they were no different than people with darker pigmentation in their skin...
The KKK in some people comes out in these threads...
It’s not about building wealth, it’s about being prepared to assist members, and build churches and temples in places where the members can’t afford to do it themselves. The Mormon church will not borrow money to build churches. They must be paid for as they go along. The Mormon church also runs the largest private welfare system in the world. Snipe if you want. There’s nothing wrong with the way the Church handles its assets. I’m happy to donate. Since you obviously are not donating, what concern is it of yours?
Now, I think I will stay a while longer.
fred
Thank you for making my point for me: Not satire > Hi, my name is Joseph Smith, and I can publish a series of stories so long no one will refute them for several generations, of course, no-one will read all of it either, since Mark Twain referenced it as "chloroform in print," but I know I was a prophet because the tallness of the tale really does matter in keeping folks from challenging me. < /Not Satire
There is so much wrong with the Book Mormon that is published (and I believe you know that--as you said are there places in the Book of Mormon that don't add up? I am sure there are.) I will say that like all made-up stuff that integrates plagiared portions of Scripture, I will simply say that it is all wrong no matter how much partially agrees with the Bible--serving as a "come-on" to the outsider who doesn't know that Book of Mormon theology is NOT mainstream Mormon theology.
"... if Satan Can Answer in God's stead and God can't stop him then that logically leads to some very disturbing conclusions. Think about it." Who has ever asserted that God cannot stop Satan??? It is a darkened mind's repeating the whispers from demonic sources! The servant of demonic intelligence fabricates the strawman that if God doesn't stop Satan then God must be impotent! And the poor fool then admonishes us to 'think about it!' Satan played a similar trick on Eve when he invited her to doubt God's honesty, implying He was withholding truth from she and Adam because He didn't want them to be like Him. Day by day we are shown by these mormon apologists that Mormonism is sourced in the demon opposed to the Grace of God in Christ.
What is truly frightening is the campaign of Mitt Romney, a Northeastern liberal, appears to be the reason we are currently so inundated with this false religion! The DU poster will quickly claim he was a Thompson fan, but his incessant campaign of endless posting works out to be a tool for the Romney 'cry bigot' campaign strategy. How very telling that Romney's sycophants use the divide to get him the nomination via negative feedback. Of course, it will not work in the general election, but then it will be too late for conservatism.
You have to do more than just post a verse and think that blankets every thing, because it does not!
LDS read the same scriptures and understand it differently.
First of a false prophet is one who is not called of God who took things upon themselves to-
1- Try to settle an issue?
2- Or intentionally to deceived
Luke 11
9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
Did any when trying to understand the nature of the God head pray and ask God before they arrive with the concept of the Trinty?
In these discussion is there any record of them doing that, praying and asking the Lord for Clarification?
From all accounts that is written they use man's method of debating and try to fine a logical explanation?
Already have it.
Thank you but where did I generalized when talking about the media, opponents and the anti’s out side of that the rest are referred to as normal when they receive the facts and understand the saturation!
Kindly show me where you misunderstood?
I don’t have the time or the interest in going through your whole list of stuff, which is meritless. I’ll just respond to the first couple of items.
The language in which the plates were written was Hebrew, using Egyptian characters. Why? Because the use of Egyptian characters saved space. The Book of Mormon authors were writing on metal places. Egyptian characters could express entire thoughts with one symbol. Hebrew characters took up much more space. BTW, people like you used to scoff at the idea of metal plates, too, because at the time Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon, none were known. Since then, archeologists have discovered contemporaneous records kept on metal plates, just as Joseph Smith said.
The land Bountiful is located in Arabia. The Book of Mormon doesn’t call all of Arabia “Bountiful.” A location matching the description of Bountiful does exist on the Southeastern shore of the Arabian peninsula. It is as Nephi described it.
This “Bountiful” is due east of a place which has recently been discovered to be an ancient burial ground. The Arabic name of the place uses the Arabic root NHM. This is consistent with the Book of Mormon, which says that Lehi’s group buried one of its members in a place called Nahom, then traveled East to Bountiful.
Also, you said there are no rivers flowing continuously in Arabia. However, there is one in a wadi, or valley, called Tayyib al-Ism, which flows into the Red Sea. This is perhaps the only wadi with a constantly flowing river, and its location is consistent with the Book of Mormon. Of course, none of this could possibly have been known to Joseph Smith.
As I said, I don’t have the time or interest to respond to everything you have said. It must be a dismal existence when the thing that gets you most worked up is attacking the religion of another.
You just proved my point by your demeanor!
A lawyer is a leech off the government courts.
You cannot have reached the level of education to pass a state bar exam and believe the crap you just posted regaridng the Smithian novel he claimed was written in ‘reformed egyptian’! The Egyptian writing is an ALPHABET. The Hebrew ALPHABET is far more compact than the imagined reformed egyptian! You didn’t expect to slip that lie past educated people, did you?
I didn't figure you'd have the time to address all of it. As my point to DU in #1527, that's what Joseph counted on as well...folks not taking the time to discern if what was inside was actually so. (How else would such a fraudulent doc grow in worldwide printing since then?)
What's ironic, tho, is that Mormons tithe to help pay for the poorer missionaries who don't have the $ to raise themselves for their mission trips, & Mormons tithe to pay for publishing the BoM in their own & other languages; and then the LDS missionaries take these BoM door-to-door ready to distribute & they ask those they visit with to read the BoM & pray about it...so it's always a one-way street with Mormons...they constantly fork over $ to have people read & pray about the BoM...but then when a response comes back that's just a sliver of the size of the BoM (and a much easier read), the response always is: "I don't have a time. Your post is too long."
If you lack wisdom about what I sent you, you should read it & you can pray to God & He will reveal if what I posted you is true or not.
It’s not a lie. As I said, a single Egyptian symbol can express an entire concept.
So, resty are you NOW able to read the minds of the those who you SAY "arrived with the concept of Trinity"?
How would know how many hours were spent in abject prayer to the Lord for guidance before this concept was "arrived" at?
"From all accounts that is written they use man's method of debating and try to fine a logical explanation?"...so...HAVE YOU read every word of every account ever written on the subject to have concluded this?
Please furnish LINKS to these account sources that relate that the ONLY method that was used is what you so often call "Man's" or "Natural Man's" method.
I see many posts that deride ANY man's prayers and quest for Heavenly guidance unless they result in the MORMON-APPROVED message from the "Holy Ghost" that the MORMON WAY IS THE ONLY CORRECT WAY!.
And CHRISTIANS are constantly maligned as "bashers"!! These posts bash and demean Christian beliefs daily, as did Joseph Smith.
Why should I go through the whole thing, when the first few are so obviously baloney? Talking to people like you is a waste of time. You are motivated by hate, and nothing else.
I see you are giving lessons in manners again, resty.
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