Posted on 01/07/2008 6:20:12 PM PST by Momaw Nadon
Ohio is lost....too many entitlements lovers to overcome.
One of the most formidable entities in politics is the UN-NAMED DEMOCRAT CANDIDATE.
As soon as the candidate is named things start to go downhill.
If McCain is the candidate, I think he could take MO and Nevada with a good possibility of FL, which is a swing of 43 EV’s but not quite enough.
Rove's strategy for a governing majority is in ruins. Maybe we should listen to Huck. At least he's got a new idea.
Wow... talk about a pig in a poke!
It's possible that Huck could win Ohio.
The nation has moved decisively to the left in economics. It's tragic, but it's true.
The question is, can we build a firewall at family values gulch.
That's one place where a majority is still with us.
“Maybe we should listen to Huck. At least he’s got a new idea.”
The cure is worse than the disease.
Ohio at 28&?
Please...
Sigh, must I state again my disdain for intrade and their marauding bunch of gambl-holics who somehow think this has any bearing at all on actual political issues?
“Ohio is lost....too many entitlements lovers to overcome.”
Without Ohio the GOP needs to win either Wisconsin or Minnesota to have any chance of victory. It’s tough, but far from impossible.
well,I don’t know for sure,but if republicans had got out to vote it would have been better,that and Dewine and Taft in office crippled us.We ,as Ohioan can and will do better.
Hillary is the GOP’s best hope. Who’da thunk it?
I have been saying that since right before Iowa but FREEPERS never believe me. lol.
I just don’t see how this means anything at this point.
I will be posting these threads every Monday up until the 2008 General Election.
Today is the first Monday in 2008.
Collecting early data allows for trends to be observed as November approaches.
I did the same thing in 2004.
Florida will not go Democrat, if we can keep the fraud down. Florida’s population is becoming more and more Republican.
OK.
Please add me to this ping list. I didn’t even know there was one.
Couldn’t you at least wait until there are nominees? I’m sorry, but polls and projections have replaced issues and philosophies in this election cycle. I promise, though, that if you post this every Monday I will ignore it and I hope others do too.
I agree the candidates will make all the difference in those pastel states. It all depends upon who is the candidate.
I've argued elsewhere here on the FR, that Huckabee could be a much better general election candidate than many are now predicting. Some have made predictions about a Huckabee disaster very reasonably, others strategically in order to undermine Huckabee to support their preferred candidate. If Huckabee can secure the nomination, he will have already shown himself to be a much more viable candidate than many think. All the Democrat candidates have serious flaws that can be exploited in the general election.
I don't know if the family values gulch is a sufficient firewall. We might have already ceded too much territory. Huckabee has an interesting dilemma trying to mix economic lberalism with strong social conservative stances. Generally speaking, the former is attractive to independents and repulsive to his base while the latter is repulsive to independents and attractive to his base. He needs a reasonable amount of both to win the general election which again might come down to Ohio.
You and I have been beating "the electorate has changed" drum for awhile now. Despite whatever the current head-to-head polls might be saying, I still think that our strongest candidates in the general election are (in order): Giuliani, McCain, Thompson, Huckabee, and Romney. Guilianin and McCain both offend conservatives (particularly social conservatives) but have the ability to attract independents to offset those losses. Thompson will bring together the Reagan Coalition but it might not be enough to win the general election in today's environment. Huckabee creates a new coalition. I'm not sure he can attract enough independents to win the election. Romney offends die-hard conservatives and evangelicals and seems to have little attraction to independents which would doom his candidancy in the general election. I don't see Romney picking up any blue states but I do see him losing a few red states.
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