Huckabee: Congress spends like Edwards at a beauty shop ...
Mike Huckabee stops bythe 'beauty shop' (remind you of John Edwards?)
Posted on 01/07/2008 12:12:29 PM PST by SmithL
And from where did you pull that particular piece of garbage?
> Memphis should be the heart of Thompson country <
I think of Memphis as Ford country.
(E.g., Harold, senior and junior, etc.)
That too!
“You are however correct that doing well in early primaries can often translate into campaign donations, so they do have some importance in that regard, and they do skew the nomination process some because of that, but you still can’t say that if someone comes in low in the pack on the first couple primaries that the race is over for them.”
That was what I meant...and the momentum that a win can generate. You’re correct that a poor finish in NH doesn’t doom Fred, although it could doom Romney or McCain and it doesn’t have any effect on Rudy at all. However in states where the candidate should do well and instead narrowly hangs on, well that can be a killer. I wouldn’t think Freds 3rd place finish in Iowa was a bad showing except that he lived there for the 2 weeks leading up to the caucus. He toured the state, spent money on ads, and did lots of meet & greets, and still ended in a virtual tie with McCain, who didn’t campaign there at all. Rudy can tank in all the early contests, but if he tanks in FL. where he’s been spending time and money, well he’s in trouble. He can probably get a pass with a 2nd place finish, but a 3rd place finish will be hard to shake off.
“Thompson needs to dig deep on Huck and have a dossier on all the crap from his governorship down to the last detail, then start shouting it from the mountaintops.”
Agreed!
And how do you know that? Did dhe call you and tell you so? Good Lord, think before you speak!
are you nuts? He lies - he never answered the 500 mil tax increases questions that were asked over and over at the debate on Sat.
he is against school choice-
amnesty to illegals
He is Elmer Gantry
Ummm... those backing huckster are not tethered to reality well! :-)
LLS
Trends.... are what they are if others aren’t watching the polls.
The PROBLEM with polls NOW is that there are a lot of people who are solely basing their voting upon those polls. So, the more the “trend” shows something going in one direction, the more you’re going to pull in to VOTE in the “trendy manner”.
It’s a fact, talk to people around you are semi-ignorant of politics and ask them about who they are voting for and why. You will discover a good majority of them are doing it “because everyone else is”. So, disagree all you like, and certainly under other circumstances (less communications, less information available than we have today!) then you’d be right, but in this case, you’re wrong.
BS.
“It’s a fact, talk to people around you are semi-ignorant of politics and ask them about who they are voting for and why. You will discover a good majority of them are doing it “because everyone else is”.”
Well then, that would imply that the polls are correct. If the polls show McCain surging and that adds to his surge, then the poll is in fact correct. I don’t care if you believe the polls or not, but they got it right in Iowa, and my guess is they’ll get it right, or pretty close in NH. Were you one of the folks here in Nov 2006 insisting the GOP would keep the senate and the house because the polls were all bogus? Or are you a Fred Head who is having a hard time facing the fact that he’s tanking?
No, it would imply a “self fulfilling prophecy”.
If people are casting voted based on what they are READING in the polls, then the polls are skewing based on that alone.
No, I wasn’t insisting any such thing in 2006. Yes, I’m a Fredhead, but that’s not why I am talking about this. It’s got nothing to do with “facing facts”. lol
The facts are, as someone said, “what they are”. Fred will win, or he won’t. It’s not BASED on the polls though. The polls are completely meaningless in all of this - unless they are EXIT polls.
These so-called “entrance polls” are less than useless because people going IN to vote are regularly saying they “don’t know whom they are voting for yet”.
Duh
Huckabee: Congress spends like Edwards at a beauty shop ...
Mike Huckabee stops bythe 'beauty shop' (remind you of John Edwards?)
I continue to be astounded at the press and the way they are CONSTANTLY trying to kill off the Thompson campaign.
The media must be scared to death of Thompson. I’ve never seen anything like this.
“The facts are, as someone said, “what they are”. Fred will win, or he won’t. It’s not BASED on the polls though. The polls are completely meaningless in all of this - unless they are EXIT polls.”
And again, they show trends, or is your position that the polls didn’t show Huckabee trending up in Iowa, or that they don’t currently show McCain trending up in NH. The polls are written in stone tablets, they don’t predetermine anything, they just show snapshots of whenever the poll was taken.
Like I said believe the polls or don’t, I don’t care one way or another. So far Rasmussen has been pretty accurate in their forecasts. That doesn’t mean that they can’t miss, just that they show which way things are trending.
BTW a “Self Fulfilling Prophecy” is still fulfilled.
You’re correct about the facts being what they are, and right now the fact is Fred is struggling, not done, not out, but struggling.
“The polls are written in stone tablets,”
Should read: are not written in stone tablets
A brokered convention will seriously hurt whatever candidate emerges from it. The conventions, which used to be held in the mid-summer, have been pushed later and later on the calendar.
In 2004, the Republican convention was almost a month after the Democrats’ — that gave Bush the advantage of continuing to spend from his primary election funds, keeping his general election powder dry for the home stretch. This time, the late convention could bite the GOP on the butt.
If the Dems coalesce around a candidate before the first of spring and the Republicans don’t know who their candidate will be until the first week of September, Obama — or whoever the Dem winds up being — will have three times as long to build his organization and get his message out.
The old — and somewhat, but not wholly, discredited — wisdom is that voters make up their minds by Labor Day. If the Republicans don’t even have a candidate until Labor Day, that i not likely to end happily for the GOP.
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