SOURCES: NBC And Hollywood Foreign Press Association Cancel Televised Golden Globes

LA Weekly ^ | 1/7/08 | Nikki Finke

[BurbankKarl]

The Hollywood writers strike can now claim its first awards show casualty. The latest I'm hearing from my sources as of a few minutes ago is that NBC will not be televising the Golden Globes as planned on January 13th. Insiders tell me also that the entire event, even if it were held untelevised, will be cancelled. And the Hollywood Foreign Press Association instead will merely make an announcement of the winners. I've not yet received any official confirmation of any of this. But insiders tell me that NBC Universal topper Jeff Zucker and the Hollywood Foreign Press Association which bestows the Golden Globes made the decision together.

[Borges]

should be ‘mid 1930s’

[Publius Valerius]

I mentioned the problem with movies aimed at young kids these days

What would those problems be with, say, Finding Nemo or Cars?

I'm just curious about the adult content in these movies.

[Publius Valerius]

Or Ratatouille. Just trying to think of "G" rated movies I've seen in the last year or two.

[Borges]

I’m guessing ‘Happy Feet’ is a prime recent offender. But if people were cinema-literate they would know it was made by Mad Max director George Miller, who’s films always have disturbing overtones (Babe: Pig in the City - which disturbed a lot of little kids), and not take their kids if they dislikee said overtones.

[Publius Valerius]

I thought Happy Feet was kind of boring and I only watched around an hour of it, so I cannot comment extensively. I will note, however, that it was rated "PG," not "G." Almost by definition, there is going to be some material that isn't appropriate for some children.

[weegee]

Maybe not but it goes a long ways. And they’d honored the passing of Leni Riefenstahl at the Oscars among those who’d passed away in the previous year.

She may have made other films in her life but the only 2 that are shown in film school are both Nazi propaganda films and shown as exemplary technique.

[Borges]

I forgot about the PG rating!

[weegee]

I don’t believe that Walt WAS a studio head in the mid-1920s. He was working for Paul Terry where he created Oswald the Rabbit. He learned his mistake when his lost out on revenues and started up his own company in the late 1920s where he had Ub Iwerks come up with Mickey Mouse and made millions off of someone else’s creation.

[Borges]

She was included in the Obit Montage. Her influence goes beyond propaganda films. She virtually invented sports photography and the pantheism of her 1920s Nature/ mountain climing films are an influence on Disney features like Bambi and the deer hunting sequence in....The Deerhunter.

[Borges]

I corrected myself in the next post.

[weegee]

If you want to see left wing movies check out Depression era films.

But we aren't supposed to acknowledge any links between their films and Red sympathies. That "witch hunting" don't you know?

Yes, much of what is regarded as "classic literature" or "classics of cinema" come from the same Left Wing that is praised today. There are other good works that don't get the accolades. And some even get blacklisted for not having the right politics.

[OESY]

"I guess I'll have to go back to being a fat, dumb and lazy lard-ass."

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[DoughtyOne]

When Leni Refenstahl visited the U.S. in the mid 1920s Walt Disney was the only studio head who would see her. Her influence is all over something like Bambi which was alsois a pioneering environmentalist film.

I would agree that it was a pioneering environmentalist film.  It's been a while since I saw the short, but I do believe it laid it on pretty thick for young kids, the death of the mother deer.

I don't remember much else that might have been problematic.

'overwhelming majority'? The great majority of films made don't even mention our wartime efforts and the small minority of those that do generally don't win Oscars. As for values, any book/movie is going to reflect the values of its maker. If you're expecting all artists to be devout Christians keep waiting. That's never been the case. And 'Hollyweird is Satanic' rhetoric is what's preventing many good people from going into filmmaking.

You may not understand this, but the entertainment industy is heavily represented by leftists.  It's so much so that way that conservative members quite often squelch their own opinions in order to not negatively impact their livelihood.  Mel Gibson had a hard time getting a distributor for his film The Passion.

The result is that a lot of inundeo is inserted that goes to reinforce leftist dogmatic stereotypes.  Tell me the last time you saw a Catholic Priest depicted in an honorable manner.  Right off hand, I can't think of one.  This is the pattern.  I don't mind that Priest might be portrayed in a negative mannor, if they would also be portrayed in positive manners as well.  That seldom happens though.

It's so pervasive that many people just take it for granted and ignore the problem.  We're not just talking about the war, patriotism, religious icons.  We're talking about a host of other issues.

As for "Hollywierd's Satanic Presentations", I don't reference it in that manner.  I do address the problem, but I try to mention the issues I have with Hollywierd in particular.

I also found it rather disturbing to see big Hollywood names donating to Bill Clinton's defense fund.  That didn't exactly endear me to the industry.

If there is something wholesome, you can generally count on Hollywierd to depict it in some unsavory mannor.

Hey, that's how I see it.

Thanks for the comments.

[Borges]

Far Left wing Economic were much more mainstream back then than they are today. A Socialist Candidate like Norman Thomas got a significant amount of votes in his periodic Presidential runs. Class was a big deal back then. You can say Dickens was a left winger. Even something like ‘It’s a Wonderful Life’ still had that 1930s era populism with the callow rich abusing the happy-go-lucky poor.

[Borges]

Gibson had trouble finding a distributor for his film because it was regarded as uncommercial. Scorsese had trouble financing 'The Last Temptation of Christ' as well which most Catholics hated. People forget that two times the production fell apart due to the studio backing out.

Million Dollar Baby' had an admirable priest. And, laugh if you will, The Simpsons depicts an Evangelical character in a much better light then a lot of other media.

If a bunch of doctors donated to Bill Clinton's defense fund would that have anyting to do with the medical industry as a whole? What percentage of people in the film industry would those who donated represent? .005%? Something like that?

People these days are obssesed with finding political overtones in something like Titanic when in the 'Golden Age' we had 'The Treasure of The Sierre Madre' who's 'money is evil' message was actually derived from a novel by outspoken communist novelist B Traven. I love the movie but I don't really have to agree with the theme.

[DoughtyOne]

I’ve seen all three of those movies, but not recently enough to be specific, with the exception of Ratatouille. I don’t remember any problems with that movie right off.

In general terms, I see short quips inserted that are off color, introducing some topic that little kids just don’t need to be introduced to. One other thing that I’ve noticed over the last ten years or so, you can hardly go see a comedy that doesn’t introduce flatulence at some point, and the more gross the representation, the better. It seems the maturity level of the writers is pre 14 year old. Kids do find that stuff funny, but parents who are trying to teach their kids mannors aren’t helped by this inclusion.

It’s as if the folks who made these movies didn’t have kids of their own, and in fact hadn’t come in contact with a young innocent kid in ten to twenty years.

My wife and I just saw Enchanted the other day. I thought it was a fairly decent movie for kids. Someone may have noticed something I didn’t.

Hope this explains what I’m trying to address. Sorry I couldn’t be more specific with a recent phrase that might have been on point.

[moonman]

Good news! I could never understand why Hollywood had award shows so that actors could slap each other on the back and compliment themselves. Is that the height of egotism, self-gratification/self centeredness ever? I thought only drunks, drug addicts and politicians had those character defects.

What I would rather watch on TV is doctors, policemen, firemen, teachers or everyday Joes being awarded trophies for exceptional heroism or life-saving acts.

Why not a 'Garbagemen Of The Year Award'? This award would show talent for ruining the most trashcans, leaving the most debris behind on the street, 'PigPen' hygene for top 5 workers, furtherest distance toss of trashbag to garbage truck and special reconigition for smelliest truck.

[Borges]

The Golden Globes aren’t given out by Hollywood. Nor are they given out by actors. It’s foreign jounralists. gossip Columnists mostly. As for the Oscars only 4 of the 20 or so are given to actors.

[Publius Valerius]

I think that most of the issues that you’re pointing out are addressed in the rating system. Most movies that have “crude humor,” so to speak, are going to be rated PG. That ought to be a warning sign to parents that there might be some material that may not be appropriate for their children.

I appreciate what you’re saying—I really do—but I think that you’re off-base on this one. There’s a lot of reasons to dislike what’s coming out of Hollywood right now, but I’m not sure that this counts. There are plenty of good kiddie movies that are rated “G,” especially since Pixar hit the jackpot with “Toy Story.” And heck, I enjoy those Pixar movies (with the exception of “Meet the Robinsons”—weak) as much as the kids. They are silly enough to delight children and subtly clever enough to keep the adults’ attention.

[Borges]

If they did an accurate adpatation of a lot of Grimm Brothers or Hans Christian Andersen stories, parents would be outraged! ‘The Little Mermaid’ was heavily watered down.