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The sheriff said the decision to use SWAT team force was justified because the father was a "self-proclaimed constitutionalist" and had made threats and "comments" over the years.

However, the sheriff declined to provide a single instance of the father's illegal behavior. "I can't tell you specifically," he said.

"He was refusing to provide medical care," the sheriff said.

However, the sheriff said if his own children were involved in an at-home accident, he would want to be the one to make decisions on their healthcare, as did Shiflett.

"I guess if that was one of my children, I would make that decision," the sheriff said.

But he said Shiflett was "rude and confrontational" when the paramedics arrived and entered his home without his permission.

30 posted on 01/07/2008 4:38:43 AM PST by rawhide
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>>> But he said Shiflett was “rude and confrontational” when the paramedics arrived and entered his home without his permission. <<<

Gee, ya thinnk????


31 posted on 01/07/2008 4:40:09 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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” However, the sheriff declined to provide a single instance of the father’s illegal behavior. “I can’t tell you specifically,” he said.”

Looks like the sheriffs budget is gonna get slashed to pay the pending lawsuit.

“He was refusing to provide medical care,” the sheriff said.”

No, he was refusing unnecessary medical care.

” But he said Shiflett was “rude and confrontational” when the paramedics arrived and entered his home without his permission.”

hmm being rude results in a swat team? being rude to someone in your home without permission warrants a swat team?

I’ve read thru this story about three times and it just keeps getting worse.


34 posted on 01/07/2008 4:43:45 AM PST by driftdiver
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I bet that if I entered the Sheriff’s home without his permission, him being “rude and confrontational” would be the least of my worries.

But I can see his point. The absolute gall of the slaves to think that they have rights.

Again, the blame goes back to the people, not all but enough have abacated their rights and responsibilities to care for themselves and demanding that the Government do this for them.

This is where we are and it is only going to get worse.


63 posted on 01/07/2008 5:19:50 AM PST by sport
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But he said Shiflett was "rude and confrontational" when the paramedics arrived and entered his home without his permission.

I guess I'd be rude and confrontational too, by sticking a 12 guage in the paramedic's face and telling him to buzz off.

74 posted on 01/07/2008 5:45:10 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Head and proud of it! Fear the Fred!)
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My parents rode an ambulance for 14 years apiece. They could tell stories that would make your hair turn white. There were a number of places in town that they didn't go without a police escort, for instance.

If a person refuses treatment, paramedics need to honor it - (theoretically) no questions asked. They *will* ask the person (or guardian) to sign a form to that effect - it's for responders' protection. Please note - I say "theoretically" because drunks are #%^^# hard to reason with, and a person with their arm hanging off by a thread needs to go to the hospital, whether he thinks he's OK, or not. One of the things EMTs can do is wait for the drunk to pass out (usually from blood loss), then they have "implied consent" to treat the patient.

I know of many instances where patients refused treatment. Usually becuase they were drunk, on drugs, or engaging in some sort of activity (illegal or immoral) that they didn't want to make public. This doesn't smell like that, though.

There's a whole lot more to this story than is being reported.

122 posted on 01/07/2008 10:25:59 AM PST by wbill
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