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Pro-lifer Confronts Giuliani During Speech -- 'You are a baby killer'
Christian Newswire ^ | 1/5/08 | Christian Newswire

Posted on 01/05/2008 4:54:08 PM PST by wagglebee

Contact: Joseph Landry, 406-860-9738; Randall Terry, 904-461-0834

MEDIA ADVISORY, Jan. 5 /Christian Newswire/ -- Pro-life activist Joseph Landry confronted Presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani for Giuliani's support of child-killing by abortion in New Hampshire:

The New York Times political blog reports: "Mr. Giuliani retained his composure when a member of the audience interrupted him and called him a "baby killer,'' for his support of abortion rights."

Associated Press reports: The Nashua town hall was interrupted by an anti-abortion protester who shouted that "a vote for Rudy is a vote for a child killer." "The blood is on your hands," shouted the man, who identified himself as Joseph Landry, 26, from Florida.

Many other media outlets carried the exchange between Mr. Landry and Mr. Giuliani.

"Joseph Landry's actions are part of an ongoing effort to expose Rudy for who he is -- a supporter of child-killing -- a Democrat in GOP clothing. When the base of the GOP learns who Giuliani is, they will reject him. Our goal is to make sure that happens.

"We will dog Rudy throughout the remaining days in New Hampshire, then begin dogging him in Florida, working to expose his campaign in the Sunshine State, and burying it for good on Super Tuesday." -- Randall Terry, Founder, Operation Rescue.

To interview Joseph Landry in New Hampshire, call 406-860-9738.

To discuss the plans of the next three weeks with Randall Terry, call 904-461-0834.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; giulianitruthfile; moralabsolutes; proaborts; prolife; rudy
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To: Delphinium

I get it.

YOU and only YOU are right (bowing and tugging on my forelock). No one else’s opinion is to be posted, lest you are offended by reading opping views.

You failed to notice that stated what “I believe”. Rather than do the same, you dogmatically deride my opinion as if I’m a traitor to the party. You do not help your cause with such tactics.


141 posted on 01/06/2008 12:10:59 PM PST by Timeout (I hate MediaCrats! ......and trial lawyers.)
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To: Das Outsider
However, I don't think heckling Giuliani with epithets like "baby killer" really does much to advance the pro-life cause in America.

Phooey! Sure it does. It makes the people who will sit and calmly discuss the pro-life position seem more reasonable in the eyes of their opponents.

The Left uses this tactic with the environmentalists all the time. They have the way out whackos parading in the streets, and calmly say 'Now, let's be reasonable, compromise...' and the whole time the wackos are drawing the 'center' off to the left.

As for me, I find it more than a wee bit 'off' that people can sit and calmly discuss sending another million babies through the shredder...

142 posted on 01/06/2008 12:31:45 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Timeout
While he was the “Republican Mayor” of New York City he appointed more than 60 men and women to the Civil, Criminal, and Family Court benchs. In all of those judicial appointment only two were Republican.

All of his other judical appointments were either registered Liberals or registered Democrats. As the “Republican Mayor” he had appointment power over more than 70 full commissioners in more than 50 City agencies, yet at no time during his administration did REPUBLICANS account for more than 10% of those appointments.

He even appointed Chuck Schumers wife as the City’s Department of Transportation Commissioner.


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http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/9054.html

“And even as we grieve for those who lost their lives, and our hearts and prayers go out to the victims and their loved ones, we may be able to find some sort of meaning in this tragedy by using it as a catalyst to revive national gun control efforts.”
Rudolph Giuliani

At the first Republican debate in May, Giuliani was alone among the GOP candidates in offering a less-than-robust affirmation when asked whether it would be a good day if the Supreme Court overturned the Roe v. Wade ruling.

"It would be OK," Giuliani said. "It would be OK to repeal it."

But, he added: "It would be OK also if a strict constructionist viewed it as precedent" and kept the law intact.

143 posted on 01/06/2008 1:56:18 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Slehn

Abortion is a personal matter. Don’t like ‘em? Don’t have one. Someone else wants to have one? Who cares? Mind your own business and stop trying to save democrat babies from democrat moms who don’t want ‘em.

Rape is a personal matter. Don’t like rape? Don’t rape. Someone else wants to rape? Who cares? Mind your own business and stop trying to save democrat women from democrat men who want ‘em.

Arson is a personal matter. Don’t like arson? Don’t burn. Someone else wants to burn? Who cares? Mind your own business and stop trying to save democrat houses from democrat men who want ‘em burned down.

Cold as ice, I know. It’s the times we live in.


144 posted on 01/06/2008 1:59:43 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: EveningStar
It makes them look like nasty, hectoring, heckling buffoons.

That's easy for you to say; but, you've already been born.

145 posted on 01/06/2008 2:03:16 PM PST by don-o (Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor. End Freepathons forever)
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To: don-o

I despise abortion. I also despise stupid heckling that puts us in a bad light.

And I also despise the attempts by some people here to paint me as pro-abotion.


146 posted on 01/06/2008 2:06:52 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: wagglebee

This approach does nothing positive for the Pro-Life movement!


147 posted on 01/06/2008 2:08:15 PM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: Doctor Don
The average voter is ignorant. The confrontational approach is the only way to inform them!

Yup.

Folks named Don (or variations thereof) are smart!

148 posted on 01/06/2008 2:13:18 PM PST by don-o (Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor. End Freepathons forever)
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To: Timeout; Delphinium; narses
I believe Rudy would keep his promise to appoint strict constructionists.

Really, I bet you believed GHWB when he said, "Read my lips: no new taxes."

Rooty has NEVER indicated that he would appoint justices who are pro-life; in fact, he has publicly said that he would appoint pro-abortion justices, and for the record he has also stated that he supported the appointment of Ginsburg.

From Rudy Giuliani Interview on Hannity and Colmes, July 21, 2005:

COLMES: Now, on abortion — now, you are pro-choice, right?

GIULIANI: Yes.

COLMES: You're a pro-choice Republican.

GIULIANI: I am.

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COLMES: Now, Roe vs. Wade -- You are pro-choice. How important is it to you as a pro-choice Republican to have a pro-choice on the court as someone...

GIULIANI: That is not the critical factor. And what's important to me is to have a very intelligent, very honest, very good lawyer on the court. And he fits that category, in the same way Justice Ginsburg fit that category.

I mean, she was — she maybe came at it from a very different political background, very qualified lawyer, very smart person. Lots of Republicans supported her. I expect, and listening to Senator Nelson, I expect that John Roberts will get support from a lot of Democrats.

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GIULIANI: Presidents, going back to the beginning of the republic, generally appoint people on the Supreme Court that they believe agree with them.


149 posted on 01/06/2008 2:17:14 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

You didn’t say if you would just as soon have Hillary or Obama appoint the next 2 or 3 justices? Maybe Justice Bill Clinton?

Elections are choices. You don’t like Rudy, I do. I like all of them except Huckabee and RuPaul...McCain is iffy.

But I will support whoever is the Republican nominee because I don’t want the Dems in charge of National Security OR the Supreme Court appointments.


150 posted on 01/06/2008 2:26:40 PM PST by Timeout (I hate MediaCrats! ......and trial lawyers.)
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To: Timeout

There will be no difference between a justice appointed by Rooty Toot and the ‘Rats.


151 posted on 01/06/2008 2:28:29 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Who is your candidate?


152 posted on 01/06/2008 3:09:58 PM PST by Timeout (I hate MediaCrats! ......and trial lawyers.)
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To: Timeout
I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights, Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded. Source: CNN.com, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999 http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Rudy_Giuliani_Abortion.htm

ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES (November 14, 2006)

RUDY GIULIANI (R), FORMER MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY: I'm pro- choice. I'm pro-gay rights.

KING: Giuliani supports a woman's right to an abortion, and back in 1999, he opposed a federal ban on late-term abortions.

GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.

KING: Immigration could be another presidential landmine. Back in 1996, Mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.

JEFFREY: He took the side of illegal immigrants in New York City against the Republican Congress.

KING: Giuliani opposes same-sex marriage but as mayor, he supported civil unions and extending health and other benefits to gay couples. He also supported the assault weapons ban and other gun control measures opposed by the National Rifle Association.

GIULIANI: I'm in favor of gun control. I'm pro-choice.

Republican Big-Wigs Support Pro-Abortion Event in NY

Pro-abortion Governor George Pataki and New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who also supports unrestricted abortion, are co-chairs of the 2000 Choice Award Presentation to be held on May 30 at the St. Regis Hotel in New York City. The event is sponsored by the Republican Pro-Choice Coalition, a group that is campaigning for the removal of the pro-life plank from the Republican National Platform.


http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200503010743.asp

Tuesday, June 20, 2000
MAYOR GIULIANI AND SPEAKER VALLONE ANNOUNCE CITY LAWSUIT AGAINST GUN INDUSTRYThis is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," July 20, 2005...

COLMES: Now, on abortion — now, you are pro-choice, right?

GIULIANI: Yes.

COLMES: You're a pro-choice Republican.

GIULIANI: I am.

~snip~

COLMES: Now, Roe vs. Wade -- You are pro-choice. How important is it to you as a pro-choice Republican to have a pro-choice on the court as someone...

GIULIANI: That is not the critical factor. And what's important to me is to have a very intelligent, very honest, very good lawyer on the court. And he fits that category, in the same way Justice Ginsburg fit that category.

I mean, she was — she maybe came at it from a very different political background, very qualified lawyer, very smart person.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/04/04/giuliani.interview/

Giuliani told Bash that "a strict constructionist judge can come to either conclusion about Roe against Wade. They can look at it and say, 'Wrongly decided. ... We will overturn it.' They can look at it and say, 'It has been the law for this period of time, therefore we are going to respect the precedent.'


153 posted on 01/06/2008 3:53:39 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: no dems
You just reminded me.Rudy was the pick of the GOP-I am changing to an independent this week.Don’t hear much from Rudy “Let’s kill a baby ,right now”.Mister smile while they die will be on later with super Tuesday.
154 posted on 01/06/2008 4:15:40 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs for Christmas:))
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To: fatima
GIULIANI: That is not the critical factor. And what's important to me is to have a very intelligent, very honest, very good lawyer on the court. And he fits that category, in the same way Justice Ginsburg fit that category.

This is political strategy, not ideology. He was talking about the nomination and consent process. You and I can say Ginsburg should have been denied based on her ideology. A president can't. He intends to be sending nominees up to the hill and can't afford to give Leahy et al a perfect set up to deny him his nominees on ideological grounds.

155 posted on 01/06/2008 4:49:26 PM PST by Timeout (I hate MediaCrats! ......and trial lawyers.)
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To: Timeout

Timeout,I respect you and you know that.For the babies I will not support him and for the GOP that annointed him I am leaving.Maybe I will take a few others with me.I know a few people.


156 posted on 01/06/2008 4:55:02 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs for Christmas:))
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To: narses

Hate men much?


157 posted on 01/06/2008 7:36:47 PM PST by Slehn (No one will ever associate the word "courage" with "Ivy League")
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To: EveningStar
It makes them look like nasty, hectoring, heckling buffoons to abortion supporters.
158 posted on 01/06/2008 7:39:11 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Don't taze me, bro!!)
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To: Syncro
Pro abortion people are nice though huh?

Of course, they are equanimous, polite, and, above all, smart.

And whatever outrage you wish to commit that doesn't directly affect them is your "choice."

So I guess you can say pro-abortion folks are really cool.

159 posted on 01/06/2008 7:49:09 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Don't taze me, bro!!)
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To: wagglebee
I remember living in NYC. Guiliani passed a edict that all women of child bearing age must have a minimum of 2 abortions per year which he personally performed himself which when he wasn't cleaning up the city, moving the peep shows off of 42nd St, lowering the welfare rolls, reviving the economy ang turning around the mess left by that do-nothing Mayor Dinkins.
160 posted on 01/06/2008 7:54:00 PM PST by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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