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To: RockinRight
...I’m not in disagreement with that. But to be a conservative in the current definition, you must not ONLY be a social-values conservative but ALSO have at least some semblence of fiscal and economic conservatism too...which is why both Rudy and Huck are not conservatives and for the opposite reasons...

Thank you. I love this stuff, because I am confused myself. Well, I think I am a general 'fiscal conservative' in that: Yes, small government is better than goverment, period! (all I have to do is go to the post office or a get social security card!...). I WANT LOWER TAXES yes. IOW, I don't believe the Government should be daddy and momy. Got it? But I am not going to deny that the very reason I have become more active in politics is simply because I see very ugly 'social' trends, that many just sit by and watch!... I think we should fight fire with fire. If anything I don't buy the good of the "Religious Left," Who are alwasy crying for the criminals, and feeling guity about everything, etc, sorry I can't be that 'good.' :)

I should tell you that ever since the war on terror, I am total believer in a National ID card. It would help us in many things to keep track of people (many will frown at that). I also believe 'waterboarding' is not torture... I think we all know what reall 'torture' IS... etc, etc, etc.

Now, about Huck, about you seen this link yet?

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200801/POL20080104f.html

57 posted on 01/04/2008 1:32:18 PM PST by ElPatriota (Duncan Hunter 08 -- I am proud to support this man for my president)
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To: ElPatriota

It’s actually kinda funny to me. I do believe that many of our problems are due to drifting away (as a nation) either from God, or simply from our traditional morals and values, and, especially, the decline of the family unit. At the same time, I think a segment of the Evangelical base is so dedicated to restoring that in America, they go to nanny-state lengths to try and achieve that goal.

I am socially conservative, but I always thought of myself as just a “normal” American - believes in God, Family, Tradition, I think the family unit is important, and it’s important to be patriotic and understand how lucky we are to live in America. However, in this day and age I suppose that makes me socially conservative. However, some believe that to be socially conservative you have to be the finger-wagging, no dancing allowed (think about the movie “Footloose” for an example) Bible-Thumper type and the President must be that way too...


74 posted on 01/04/2008 1:48:43 PM PST by RockinRight (Huck Supporters: Being Christian doesn't make one an automatic conservative. Far from it.)
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To: ElPatriota

I should tell you that ever since the war on terror, I am total believer in a National ID card.
***Here’s where we part company. That brings in the system of the beast, as foretold in the bible in Rev Chapt13:

16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.


98 posted on 01/04/2008 2:12:16 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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