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Crumpled map solves mystery of German gun behind D-Day massacre (Amateur historian finds at a fair)
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | January 4, 2008

Posted on 01/04/2008 10:08:40 AM PST by Stoat

Crumpled map solves mystery of German gun behind D-Day massacre

Last updated at 17:03pm on 4th January 2008

A baffling mystery of the D-Day landings was solved by an amateur historian - after he found a crumpled map at a fair in Stockport.

 

Experts have long disputed the location of the main Nazi gun battery which caused carnage on Omaha Beach, in terrible scenes which were recreated for the Hollywood film Saving Private Ryan.

 

The Germans had built a decoy gun emplacement overlooking the area while the location of the real guns which blasted the beach, where 2,000 men lost their lives, remained unclear.

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Gunning position: The location of the Nazi gun battery was long disputed

 

But Gary Sterne, a publisher and collector, stumbled on the answer as he browsed through items at a Stockport militaria fair and a piece of paper fell out of a pair of US serviceman's trousers.

 

It turned out to be an invasion map for Omaha Beach, which included an area marked Area of High Resistance he thought could be the "lost" Nazi gun emplacements.

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Amateur historian Garry Sterne tracked down the 'lost' gun emplacements after finding a tattered map

 

"It sparked my curiosity, because that area was previously thought to be just fields," he said.

 

The 43-year-old father of two from Cheadle Hulme travelled to Normandy to examine the area - and bought it.

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HQ Nazi gun emplacements

The headquarters of the 'lost' Nazi gun emplacements. Mr Sterne bought the site bit by bit from 32 different landowners

 

He spent thousands buying the 40-acre site bit-by-bit from 32 different landowners, and two years excavating trenches and bunkers to reveal the 'Maisy Battery'.

 

Mr Sterne believes this was responsible for the brutal bombardment of Omaha on D-Day and for days afterwards until its capture on June 9, 1944.

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Sterne spent two years excavating the trenches and bunkers at the site

 

Now Mr Sterne plans to open a museum on the site and the battery will be featured in a documentary for the BBC Timewatch programme.

 

Mr Sterne has contacted veterans of the US 5th Ranger Battalion, who confirmed taking Maisy Battery from the Germans.

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The radio room at the site, believed to be responsible for the brutal bombardment of Omaha on D-Day

 

The Timewatch documentary, Bloody Omaha, is presented by Richard Hammond on BBC2 on Sunday at 9pm.

 

What do you think? Have your say.

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Thousands of American troops were gunned down as they landed at Omaha beach on D-Day

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How the carnage was captured in Saving Private Ryan



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: banglist; dday; england; france; germany; godsgravesglyphs; milhist; militaryhistory; omaha; omahabeach; overlord; uk; ww2
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The original FR thread on this from January 2006

Nazis' secret base found (Omaha Beach battery contains 40 buildings untouched since D-Day)

An essential, related thread

Dedication of New Normandy American Cemetery Visitor Center Set for June 6, 2007

21 posted on 01/04/2008 10:41:06 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: ClearCase_guy

ping


22 posted on 01/04/2008 10:43:15 AM PST by Last Dakotan (All my tools are hammers, except screwdrivers which are chisels and punches.)
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To: Billthedrill; Stoat
Absolutely fascinating article!

I’ve always wanted to own a bunker complex.

Hubby is always pondering what realtor a person contacts to buy a bunker. Or a compound. He's pretty sure there's some sort of "Bunker/Compound Real Estate Agency" that he's woefully unaware of.

(I think it's the diesel fumes talking...)

23 posted on 01/04/2008 10:48:21 AM PST by nodumbblonde
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To: snowsislander
From the link in #21:

A WARTIME bunker used by Nazis to bombard Allied troops during the D-Day landings has been unearthed untouched — after 60 years.

British treasure hunter Gary Sterne found the base exactly as it was when German troops fled after the Normandy invasion in June 1944.

Gary, 41, said: “It’s truly incredible. Apart from damage to the radio room, the whole place seemed to escape bombing unscathed.”

The bunker sprawls over 20 acres and is thought to be the hidden German battery that decimated US soldiers at Omaha Beach, seven miles away.

The encampment contains 40 buildings — including a field hospital.

Some of the offices contain army papers — as well as radio equipment.

Amateur historian Gary found it in dense undergrowth after buying a German army map at a French car boot sale.

The dad of two, from Manchester, kept it secret for three years so he could buy the land near the village of Grandcamp-Maisy.

He now plans to open it as a tourist attraction this year.


24 posted on 01/04/2008 10:49:06 AM PST by Constitution Day (Get over yourselves!)
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To: Nightshift

gnip...


25 posted on 01/04/2008 10:50:30 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: Stoat

They also revealed that they found $4.2million worth of French francs, which was shared among the men.


Sounds more like Kelly’s Heroes than SPR.


26 posted on 01/04/2008 10:52:11 AM PST by kms61
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To: nodumbblonde
Hubby is always pondering what realtor a person contacts to buy a bunker. Or a compound. He's pretty sure there's some sort of "Bunker/Compound Real Estate Agency" that he's woefully unaware of.

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27 posted on 01/04/2008 10:53:38 AM PST by Constitution Day (Get over yourselves!)
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To: nodumbblonde

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28 posted on 01/04/2008 10:55:22 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("Has there been a code nine? Have you heard from the Doctor?")
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To: nodumbblonde

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29 posted on 01/04/2008 10:55:36 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("Has there been a code nine? Have you heard from the Doctor?")
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To: nodumbblonde; Billthedrill; All
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30 posted on 01/04/2008 10:56:01 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Billthedrill
I’ve always wanted to own a bunker complex. :-)

Especially useful in the event of a Hillary administration...

31 posted on 01/04/2008 10:58:34 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Stoat

I get goosebumps every time I think of the bravery of our troops that day on the beach.


32 posted on 01/04/2008 10:59:44 AM PST by pabianice
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To: Stoat

Fascinating. Thanks for the article.


33 posted on 01/04/2008 11:00:26 AM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street - - - Fred D. Thompson / Consistent Conservative...The One with Gravitas)
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To: Stoat
How the carnage was captured in Saving Private Ryan

The scene from Private Ryan was poor. The gate on the landing barge goes down just 75 yards directly in front and 5 yards beneath an MG-42 in a hardened emplacement. No one could have gotten off the boat without being hit but sure enough, the shakey handed LT. and his men make it to the beach and take out the pillbox.

34 posted on 01/04/2008 11:06:59 AM PST by fso301
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To: Terriergal; Stoat

Good stuff all around!

I was a (almost) teenager during this time. ;)

I turned 14 in Oct of ‘44.


35 posted on 01/04/2008 11:07:54 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Freeper; ClearCase_guy
...... in light of the whole “WMD in Iraq” argument. Sometimes figuring out where the weapons were located takes more than 60 years — even after you pretty much know where to look...

"No WMD in Iraq," has now achieved Urban Legend Status, just like "Al Gore's Stolen Victory." It's going to be mighty hard to break the newly established myths after the MSM has literally invested itself and many millions in establishing them.

For example, how many Americans know that advanced Iraqi fighters were found buried in the sand ...completely by accident? It's a very big country, of which we have dug up very little.

BTW, now that Clint Eastwood and Steven Spielberg have discovered WWII, are we going to be treated to a WWII "Disneyland," in which factual data that doesn't fit the fantasy is going to be ignored in some sort of faintly disrepectful, if not to say unpatriotic, revisionist history? I.E., will it turn out that the Waffen SS, or the Japanese who used American prisoners for bayonet practice were reacting to some racist imperialistic American crime?

36 posted on 01/04/2008 11:08:22 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Round up the Dark Horses, boys. This herd of contenders ain't makin' it.)
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To: fso301
No one could have gotten off the boat without being hit but sure enough, the shakey handed LT. and his men make it to the beach and take out the pillbox.

Well if they didn't there would have been no movie!

;-)

In all seriousness someone had to have made it..somewhere... I guess they just took a little literary liberty there.

37 posted on 01/04/2008 11:12:31 AM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Constitution Day

I want the one that has the small, modest house on top and the runway out back.


38 posted on 01/04/2008 11:17:25 AM PST by Sender (You are the weapon. What you hold in your hand is just a tool.)
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To: cav68
Your dad was with the 29th Inf? They got the worst of it, as I recall.
39 posted on 01/04/2008 11:20:00 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: kms61
They also revealed that they found $4.2million worth of French francs, which was shared among the men.

Sounds more like Kelly’s Heroes than SPR.

Wait a minute- that's not 4.2 million...it's 42 MILLION!

[actually, 1.6/16 mill....] -Crapgame

40 posted on 01/04/2008 11:20:08 AM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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