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ABC cuts 3 from presidential debates (Ron Paul in; Duncan Hunter out)
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 4 January 2008 | David Bauder

Posted on 01/04/2008 9:38:26 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture

ABC cuts 3 from presidential debates

NEW YORK—ABC News is eliminating Republican presidential candidate Duncan Hunter and Democrats Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel from its prime-time presidential debates Saturday night because they did not meet benchmarks for their support.

The Republican debate three days before the New Hampshire primary will include Iowa caucus winner Mike Huckabee, John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Fred Thompson, Mitt Romney and Ron Paul. It starts at 7 p.m. EDT.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
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To: Scythian
Hell, if you look at the UNH poll that just came out, Hunter comes in throughout the poll with mainly asterisks instead of percentage points. Asterisks.

Who cares if he is the best person possible for the job, he sucks as a candidate. His campaign had all the get up and go of gum on the sidewalk.

81 posted on 01/04/2008 11:19:25 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: All; Extremely Extreme Extremist; RonPaulLives; the irate magistrate; hiredhand
Ah! If only the American People had the same power that the corporately influenced "large" Government does. What a shame, we don't have a President who listens to the voice of his VOTERS and FEDERAL TAXED TAXPAYERS!

If Only WE had a REAL REPUBLICAN President, that would step in and suggest that it is up to the American Citizens as to when and where the debates will be. Or as to when and who has the majority influence, but *sigh* we just keep letting the "parties" speak for us!

What a shame! What a shame!

82 posted on 01/04/2008 11:22:04 AM PST by CourtneyLeigh (Why can't all of America be Commonwealth?)
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To: mysterio

I am not surprised that Hunter is excluded, but I am offended that the GOP is letting ABC host debates and make such decisions. They don’t call it the Stupid Party for nothing.


83 posted on 01/04/2008 11:32:23 AM PST by Defiant (Huckabee puts the goober back in gubernatorial.)
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To: TKDietz
Or maybe they are including Paul because he got almost as many votes as McCain and Thompson in Iowa and nearly three times as many votes as Guilliani.

If I believed in the honesty of the liberal media, I'd agree with you. Since I don't, I think otherwise. Ron Paul is certainly outspoken and not afraid to go against the status quo. And I agree with many of his beliefs about following the Consitution. However, I think ABC is doing it simply for ratings. (His remarks do tend to stir things up.)

84 posted on 01/04/2008 11:35:03 AM PST by scan59 (Let consumers dictate market policies. Government just gets in the way.)
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To: Martins kid
“Having Paul on the stage is being done to embarrass Republicans and to give them less credibility.”

If they were to cut Paul, they’d have to cut Giuliani. Paul got nearly three times as many votes in Iowa as Giuliani. Duncan Hunter didn’t even get half of one percent of the vote. He’s not even close to being a serious contender for the nomination. Paul really isn’t a serious contender either I don’t think, but they couldn’t have cut him without cutting Giuliani. Giuliani didn’t even make top five in the list though and he got creamed by Ron Paul so if there aren’t drastic changes for Giuliani it won’t be long before he’ll stop being included in debates.

85 posted on 01/04/2008 11:35:37 AM PST by TKDietz
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To: scan59
If I believed in the honesty of the liberal media, I'd agree with you.

The rules for inclusion were announced well ahead of time. Do you think that ABC manipulated the results of the Iowa caucus and New Hampshire polling data, simply to exclude Duncan Hunter and to give Ron Paul a seat at the table?

86 posted on 01/04/2008 11:42:16 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Hunter didn’t really bother with Iowa.

Neither did Giuliani, but he got more votes. If Hunter had gotten more votes than Giuliani, he'd be in for the same reason as Paul (the media isn't going to leave Giuliani out because he's too well established as a significant candidate; therefore, they can't exclude anybody who got more votes than him in Iowa without looking ridiculous).

87 posted on 01/04/2008 11:46:34 AM PST by steve-b (Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. --RAH)
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To: BlueOneGolf; SLB; skinkinthegrass; WKUHilltopper; SomeCallMeTim; ItsOurTimeNow; airdalechief; ...

Bttttttttttttttt!


88 posted on 01/04/2008 11:49:09 AM PST by CourtneyLeigh (Why can't all of America be Commonwealth?)
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To: Martins kid

Paul doesn’t belong in the Republican Debate anyway since he is more Libertarian than Republican. ??????

A twenty year Republican Senator does not belong in the debate? Or don’t you want Paul out of the debate because you simply favor someone else.

Romney, Rudy, McCain, and Huck are by far more liberal than Paul and they have MSM ties.

I think better questions at the debate is a good idea. Specifically what is your policy to; shrink government, avoid or win wars, pay off the debt, stop indoctrination of our children, etc.


89 posted on 01/04/2008 11:52:50 AM PST by captain anode (78% of us FREEPERS could practice better manners.)
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To: dandelion
"Since when did we give multi-national media corporations the authority to PICK CANDIDATES for the PRESIDENCY?"


Whether we like it or not, they have the right to choose which candidates participate in debate that they sponsor. More conservative groups should band together and sponsor our own debates,
90 posted on 01/04/2008 12:01:32 PM PST by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: dandelion
"Since when did we give multi-national media corporations the authority to PICK CANDIDATES for the PRESIDENCY?"


Whether we like it or not, they have the right to choose which candidates participate in debate that they sponsor. More conservative groups should band together and sponsor our own debates,
91 posted on 01/04/2008 12:02:24 PM PST by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: captain anode
A twenty year Republican Senator

Ron Paul is not, and has never been, a Senator.

92 posted on 01/04/2008 12:04:59 PM PST by kevkrom (All those in favor of Thompson, don't raise your hand.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
"Maybe they could give Duncan Hunter a full hour to analyze the debate like FoxNews did with Fred Thompson when Fred was still ducking the debates..."


Thompson was a commentator at the time, Hunter isn't.
93 posted on 01/04/2008 12:05:02 PM PST by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: Sun

Hunter with the best qualifacations for President and the MSM has marginalized him from day one.

Hunter who is a war vet and his son three tours in the current war and MSM includes the anti war neoNazi L Ron Paul in the debate.

If the other Repo candidates had any conscious they would say if you include a NeoNazi like Paul and leave out Hunter, no one is showing up.


94 posted on 01/04/2008 12:14:16 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

I don’t care how low any of these guys placed, there is no way the MSM should be deciding who gets to debate and who doesn’t. Its a form of political speech censorship, in my opinion, and should be investigated at once.


95 posted on 01/04/2008 12:16:18 PM PST by rintense (Thompson/Hunter 2008!)
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To: kevkrom

Right congressman, thanks.


96 posted on 01/04/2008 12:20:34 PM PST by captain anode (78% of us FREEPERS could practice better manners.)
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To: CourtneyLeigh

ABC can pound sand. I haven’t read, seen, nor listened to anything they’ve said in years and I don’t intend on doing so now.


97 posted on 01/04/2008 12:21:37 PM PST by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

The only surprise is they kept Ron Paul in the debate.


98 posted on 01/04/2008 12:23:30 PM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: SoCalPol

anti war neoNazi

Attaching these labels does not increase your credibility, anyway aren’t those terms conflicting in some way?


99 posted on 01/04/2008 12:25:33 PM PST by captain anode (78% of us FREEPERS could practice better manners.)
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To: Badeye

The only surprise is they kept Ron Paul in the debate.

Do you wonder if they had this in mind all along but just used this to distract the RP campaign from productive activity?


100 posted on 01/04/2008 12:28:23 PM PST by captain anode (78% of us FREEPERS could practice better manners.)
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