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Iowa Caucuses - Results Live Thread
January 3, 2008 | xjcsa

Posted on 01/03/2008 12:08:45 PM PST by xjcsa

Edited on 01/03/2008 7:30:11 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

I thought the time was right to start up a live thread for results and comments about tonight, so here we are!



TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2008; biden; caucus; caucuses; dodd; edwards; elections; fred; fredthompson; giuliani; gravel; hillary; huckabee; hunter; ia2008; iowa; keyes; kucinich; livethread; mccain; mikehuckabee; obama; paul; richardson; romney; thompson
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To: xjcsa

Predictions

Mike Huckabee - 33%
Mitt Romney - 29%
Fred Thompson - 16%
John McCain - 10%
Rudy Guiliani - 6%
Ron Paul - 5%
Duncan Hunter - 1%

Hillary Clinton - 40%
Barack Obama - 27%
John Edwards - 25%
Bill Richardson - 5%
Joe Biden - 1%
Chris Dodd - 1%
Dennis Kucinich - 1%
Mike Gravel - 0%


221 posted on 01/03/2008 2:03:45 PM PST by VirginiaConstitutionalist (The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of the Individual against the State.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Huckabee has a lot of problems but I am shocked at the level of animosity towards his candidacy around here. Huckabee is a fiscal moderate and yes this is a bad thing. However, many Freepers seem to view this as worse then Giuliani who is a social liberal. Are we really so shallow that we would care more about our taxes then about the lives of millions of babies?


222 posted on 01/03/2008 2:04:59 PM PST by dschapin
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To: Paraclete
So, I guess I’m a leftist/pinko/marxist/commie who is going to support Huckabee.

So be it.

As long as you know it...why don't you just vote for Obama if issues mean nothing to you?

223 posted on 01/03/2008 2:06:23 PM PST by xjcsa (Defenseless enemies are fun.)
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To: rurgan

Also one of many reasons you didn’t see much if not at all of the Huckesters sons, they are unnaturally obese and one of his sons in ‘98 strung up and killed a German Shep. dog and this past April was arrested for taking a loaded gun on a plane


224 posted on 01/03/2008 2:06:52 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: dschapin

Guiliani tells the truth about his record. He says he is pro-abortion, he says he is for gun control.

Huckabee doesn’t tell the truth. He hems and haws around the truth but doesn’t tell it.

I may not vote for Guiliani, but at least I don’t have to ignore what he says while looking for where he stands. That is why Huckabee gets under so many people skins: he’s a con man.


225 posted on 01/03/2008 2:07:56 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist

Good Heavens, the GOP caucuses won’t be ending for four hours, and this thread is well over 200 posts. My bet is this thing will go to well over 2000 posts, probably far over.


226 posted on 01/03/2008 2:09:03 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year)
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To: La Enchiladita
There are you and two women left in the world and your god has told you you must mate with one of them. Who do you choose Mrs. Bill Clinton or Mrs. Mike Huckabee?
227 posted on 01/03/2008 2:09:04 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("Has there been a code nine? Have you heard from the Doctor?")
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To: dschapin
Are we really so shallow that we would care more about our taxes then about the lives of millions of babies?

A majority of the people around here are Thompson supporters, so they care about both.

228 posted on 01/03/2008 2:09:07 PM PST by Texas Federalist (Fred Thompson - The only true conservative in the race)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Haven’t we had enough “passion” in the oval office? Pass the cigar.


229 posted on 01/03/2008 2:09:31 PM PST by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: Eva

How is the advantage applied, can they limit who attends a caucus, can they send a bunch of people from other districts into another caucus ? If the DNC party leaders are controlling the caucus, then McAuliffe and those thugs, could they stack things for the Hildebeast ?

I’m not clear on what you mean by “controlled by the parties”?

Thanks


230 posted on 01/03/2008 2:10:11 PM PST by Beatthedrum
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To: dschapin

Giuliani is much more honest about his liberalism.


231 posted on 01/03/2008 2:10:17 PM PST by Cedric
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To: longtermmemmory

Perhaps many of those Huckabee supporters that you are so quick to mock are Christians who have simply had it with the Republican Party elite who have tried to force Giuliani on us from the beggining. I find it ironic that Rush is going on the attack now when he never bothered to attack Guiliani who is worse than anathama to any American who cares about family, values, or the lives of innocent babies.


232 posted on 01/03/2008 2:10:41 PM PST by dschapin
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To: trisham

Absolutely nothing wrong with being pro-life, pro-gun, pro-marriage. These are my positions, too. But these are the ONLY things that Huckabee is conservative on.


233 posted on 01/03/2008 2:10:56 PM PST by georgiagirl_pam
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To: dschapin
YOU"RE shocked. I'm schocked that at all these Huckabee bots defending him. Is whatever reason you are defending this Huckster worth the destruction of the United States and of your own living standard?

Huckabee is not only for Amnesty for illegals but also he is for chain Amnesty .

Huckabee will give Amnesty to 30 million illegals and then allow those 30 million to bring to the U.S. 100 million of their relatives . That would turn America into a 3rd world socialist hell hole. Who cares if this Huckster says he is a Christian and says he is pro-life when he will destroy America and what’s left of the Republican party?

Huckabee is not only for Amnesty but for chain Amnesty. What does it matter that the Huckster says he is a good Christian and pro-life when Huckabee will turn the U.S,. into a socialist state where we will all be starving?

Mike Huckabee is a socialist/liberal, pro-Amnesty, pro-illegal immigrant, tax-raising, false prophet. Someone should tell Huckabee and the Democrats that socialism doesn't work. Look at the U.S. government schools, USSR, Cuba, N Korea, Eastern Europe as examples that show socialism doesn't work.

Mike Huckabee. The Socialist From Arakansas. CofCC.org Newa Team

(by Kyle Rogers)

The NEA is a radical left wing teachers association. They aggressively oppose homeschooling, are hostile to parochial schools, and advocate federalizing the curriculum of all public schools. As Governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee passed a law that added major restrictions to the Arakansas Homeschool Rights Act passed by Bill Clinton, making Arkansas one of the most hostile state to homeschoolers outside of the Northeast. Homeschoolers in Arkansas had more rights when Clinton left office than when Huckabee left office.

Was Mike Huckabee “just like Bill Clinton?” Maybe, but some would actually say he was to the left of Bill Clinton. As Governor of Arkansas, Huckabee’s tax and spend record greatly exceeded former AR Gov. Bill Clinton. He even wanted to tax the internet.

Mike Huckabee is to the left of even Sam Brownback and John McCain on immigration. He claimed God wants us to give amnesty to millions of illegal aliens. As Governor of Arkansas he advocated letting illegal aliens vote.

While Huckabee is now lying and saying he is dedicated to fighting illegal immigration, his record is clear.

Fact #1. As Governor of Arkansas, Mike Huckabee denounced an immigration bill (Arkansas Senate Bill 206) that “would have required proof of citizenship to register to vote and would have required state agencies to report suspected cases of people living in the country illegally.” (Doug Thompson, “Immigration Bill un-Christian..governor says”Arkansas News Bureau 1/28/05)

Fact #2. As Governor, Mike Huckabee offered a proposal to give state funded scholarships and state benefits to illegal aliens. (Laura Kellams, “Huckabee Plan would give aid to illegal aliens” Arkansas Democrat Gazette 1/12/2005)

Fact #3. Governor Huckabee supported the McCain-Kennedy Senate Amnesty bill for illegal aliens. Huckabee claims to know God’s position on the Amnesty Bill, and that God supports it. Huckabee has repeated called opponents of illegal immigration “racists” and/or “bigots.” Read Article. , Read Article #2

Fact #4. Governor Huckabee refuses to sign the “No Amnesty Pledge”.

Mike Huckabee disses Americans, Mexicans, promotes illegal immigration

http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/005609.html

Christians Need To Beware Of Mike Huckabee

http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cbarchive_20071102.html

While Gov. of Arkansas, Huckabee was AGAINST proving citizenship in order to register to vote. He called those who were in favor of this “racists”..

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050218/news_lz1e18perkins.html

Huckabee fought hard to kill an Arkansas bill which would have cut off social services for illegal aliens. Huckabee called the bill, “anti-Christian” and “un-American”...

http://www.arkansasnews.com/archive/2005/01/28/News/316347.html

Huckabee supported in-state tuition for illegal aliens...

http://www.arkansasnews.com/archive/2005/03/11/News/318458.html

Huckabee’s opposition to the illegal aliens bill:

http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/000718.html

234 posted on 01/03/2008 2:11:22 PM PST by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I will not stay up to the end... Hope it works out but the news headline will be black male over-rides white female... the Oprah effect!


235 posted on 01/03/2008 2:11:36 PM PST by JFC
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To: dschapin

Not when we have the option to go with someone who will take care of both fronts...


236 posted on 01/03/2008 2:11:51 PM PST by Loyolas Mattman
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

that is how the state department created the mess in kosovo,

how the state department routinely screws up the middle east.

they push agree to disagree and have perpetual negotiations.

Huckabee SOOOOOOO reminds me of jimmy carter.

contrast:

Conservative: Praise the lord and pass the ammunition...

Huckster: Praise the lord and tax the ammunition...


237 posted on 01/03/2008 2:12:13 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Sola Veritas
If you do not want to listen to
Rush then do not. But you should because it will be important to hear him when he tells his audience “I told you so!” about the Huckster. Either way no sweat of Rush’s cat’s a$$.
238 posted on 01/03/2008 2:12:40 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("Has there been a code nine? Have you heard from the Doctor?")
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Yup. This latest diddy about the anti-Romney attack ad is downright pathological.
239 posted on 01/03/2008 2:12:52 PM PST by Cedric
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To: xjcsa

Go Fred!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


240 posted on 01/03/2008 2:13:03 PM PST by RockinRight (Huckabee - Edwards' economics, Obama's foreign policy, but with a nice Jesus-approved smile.)
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