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Pa. Sperm Donor Wins Challenge To Court-Ordered Child Support
NBC 10 ^ | January 2, 2008 | NBC 10

Posted on 01/03/2008 7:16:39 AM PST by grjr21

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1 posted on 01/03/2008 7:16:42 AM PST by grjr21
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The kids need support but its high time that fathers have equal protection under the law.


2 posted on 01/03/2008 7:18:50 AM PST by driftdiver
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From the get go this was a sick situation.


3 posted on 01/03/2008 7:19:57 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Abolish the CIA, give the job to the Free Clinic who know how to stop leaks.)
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To: driftdiver

Their mother should support them.


4 posted on 01/03/2008 7:21:02 AM PST by Tax-chick ("The keys to life are running and reading." ~ Will Smith)
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But the mother could have aborted the twins, for any reason, at any time, up to 1 second before birth and the father has ZERO say in the matter...
5 posted on 01/03/2008 7:22:49 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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bttt


6 posted on 01/03/2008 7:23:45 AM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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“Their mother should support them.”

I’m a firm believer that children need a mother and a father. Not two mommies or two daddies. Step parents are ok but the ideal should be mom and dad.

This woman should not have done this deal unless she could afford it. Its tragic for the children who will probably be supported with our tax dollars BUT men always seem to get screwed in these situations.

IMO, juding from the “previous relationship” they had the woman thought this would bring him back into her life. When it didn’t she had to go to plan B.


7 posted on 01/03/2008 7:24:22 AM PST by driftdiver
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To: Doctor Raoul

Yes, that’s exactly right. I have never understood how a man could agree to such a thing in the first place.


8 posted on 01/03/2008 7:24:55 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: grjr21

Wow. What a mess.

Here’s the bottom line....the guy NEVER should have agreed to such a thing. NEVER. The repercussions, besides this interesting one, go on forever.

Parents....tell your sons.


9 posted on 01/03/2008 7:25:19 AM PST by Fishtalk (If you liked the above post, remember I've got a Blog you might like to visit.)
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Parents....tell your sons.

Yup. Fathers need to make it clear to their sons that the wallet on their hip is tied to their whip.

10 posted on 01/03/2008 7:27:29 AM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: driftdiver
I’m a firm believer that children need a mother and a father.

I agree. I think that this whole situation is dreadful and should never have happened. If there were some way to penalize the man for being an absolute dingbat, without allowing the woman to stick him up for lifetime earnings, I think it should be done. (Maybe he could contribute to a fund to inform other men of how stupid it is to donate sperm outside of marriage?)

It's tragic for the children who will probably be supported with our tax dollars ...

What's tragic is that they don't have a father in their lives. The mother presumably has a job, since she and the donor were co-workers, so there's some level of self-support.

11 posted on 01/03/2008 7:28:08 AM PST by Tax-chick ("The keys to life are running and reading." ~ Will Smith)
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To: 2banana

No way would I support this in actuality, but...

If a woman has the “right to choose” and chooses to give birth to a baby when the sperm donor chooses NOT to be a father - he should have NO responsibility for supporting the child.


12 posted on 01/03/2008 7:29:25 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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“The children point and say, ‘That is our father. He should support us,”’ Eakin wrote. “What are we to reply? ‘No! He made a contract to conceive you through a clinic, so your father need not support you.’ I find this unreasonable at best.”

In other words, ‘never mind the settled matter of the underlying contract; my feeeeeelings as a judge are more powerful. And I am above the law’

Infuriating.


13 posted on 01/03/2008 7:29:37 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (We've checked, and all your zeroes are OK. We're still working on your ones.)
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“The children point and say, ‘That is our father. He should support us,”’ Eakin wrote. “What are we to reply? ‘No! He made a contract to conceive you through a clinic, so your father need not support you.’ I find this unreasonable at best.”

In other words, ‘never mind the settled matter of the underlying contract; my feeeeeelings as a judge are more powerful. And I am above the law’

Infuriating.


14 posted on 01/03/2008 7:29:41 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (We've checked, and all your zeroes are OK. We're still working on your ones.)
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This is another reason why I’m hesitant on dating.

In another situation, a relationship could be going fine for a few months, at least to me, yet failing to her. One day she could suddenly cry rape to somebody, and have me thrown in jail for a while. Then I’d be the one in jail screaming rape, while security guards don’t help me.


15 posted on 01/03/2008 7:30:11 AM PST by wastedyears (Tell me why I had to be a powerslave... Iron Maiden March 14th, 2008)
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"The kids need support but its high time that fathers have equal protection under the law."

It's getting to a point where guys should start thinking of freezing some sperm for future considerations of parenthood, then getting a vasectomy to protect themselves from women looking for a free ride.

Of course there is another way which works very well, but considering children are being taught to think of sex as a recreational activity, rather than a part of marriage, love and the completion of God's design.

16 posted on 01/03/2008 7:33:04 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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A woman who promised a sperm donor he would not have to pay child support cannot renege on the deal,

I don't think that this is what my father had in mind when he taught me that a woman is always allowed to change her mind 

17 posted on 01/03/2008 7:36:27 AM PST by grjr21
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To: MrB; Nathan Zachary
Nathan Zachary wrote: Of course there is another way which works very well ...

You mean, "Don't donate sperm unless you want to be a full-time father for the rest of your life."?

In my opinion, any legal provisions that make it easier for either men or women to evade responsibility for the children they conceive should be eliminated.

18 posted on 01/03/2008 7:36:56 AM PST by Tax-chick ("The keys to life are running and reading." ~ Will Smith)
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Hmmmppphhhh

Eve was suckered in by her own desire ... suggested by evil ... and induced Adam to fall.

Same ole / same ole ..

Now, we're not talking spiritual application here, but all scripture IS given (to us) by inspiration of God, and is profitable (among others) for instruction.

The law is given for the law breaker, and in this case .. the law sides with the man.

Eve wanted a baby from Adam and induced him to give her one ... she promised everything just to have his baby.

This time Adam was smart enough to CHA, and Eve now has two lovely kids that will probably suffer because of her dementia.

Sticky wicket, eh? ... but dems da' breaks, baby.

19 posted on 01/03/2008 7:37:46 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: wastedyears

GOOD POINT! Most are unaware that the overwhelming MAJORITY of rape victeims are MEN...sodomized by force in prison, and swept under the rug by the Fed.gov and State.gov . Not a good place to be!


20 posted on 01/03/2008 7:37:51 AM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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