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Is this the end of the Clintons?
Telegraph.Co.UK ^ | Jan. 2, 2008 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 01/02/2008 10:31:10 AM PST by COUNTrecount

Was I witnessing the last throes of the 15-year-long Clinton political psychodrama in Ames, Iowa yesterday? Here’s my newspaper piece on Hillary’s final plea for support in tomorrow’s caucuses. The case she made was far from compelling – that she’s human (honest) and that she has unrivalled experience. Both propositions are debatable and she was much less compelling than Barack Obama and John Edwards have been in recent days. She seems to have had some kind of speech therapy to create a softy-soft voice that made me long for the grating shrillness of yore.

Hillary Clinton tried to present herself as softer and more human

The Obama campaign is supremely confident that victory is within its grasp. “So what?” I hear you ask. Iowa is a sparsely populated, unrepresentative state in which on the Democratic side only 124,000 people caucused in 2004. Surely it can’t matter that much? Don’t bet on it. If Hillary loses tomorrow, her presidential bid is likely to collapse like a house of cards.

For all the arguments against Iowa having such disproportionate influence – and Christopher Hitchens airs some good ones with characteristic aplomb here – it does mean that pre-packaged, calculating politicians like Hillary are scutinised and exposed (we’ll see if Mitt Romney is too).

All the money and establishment backing she had behind her couldn’t prevent her getting caught out by voters asking her about Iran and Iran, discovered planting softball questions and rumbled for having advisers forwarding smear emails about Obama. She tried to remain aloof and away from the voters but it didn’t work – if anything, the seeds of her demise (if that’s what it turns out to be) lay in that strategy.

When an incumbent-style campaign is built on a sense of inevitability, it comes under huge strain when hit by an early defeat. The bubble is burst – which is what will happen if Hillary loses Iowa to Obama in Iowa (if she loses to Edwards, the picture will be less clear).

Of course, if Hillary pulls through then it’s difficult to see how Obama and Edwards can beat her – this is absolutely their best shot. Adam Nagourney of the “New York Times” argues here that Iowa might mean nothing. That’s possible. But my hunch is that it will end up meaning everything.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: getoffthestage; hillary; ia2008; impeachedpresident; nothirdterm; oligarchy
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To: COUNTrecount

Leona Helmsley Clinton can’t sell warm.

Pray for W and Our Troops


61 posted on 01/02/2008 12:26:32 PM PST by bray (Fred, the Law and Order Candidate)
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To: NeoCaveman

I think Reid can be removed by a majority of senior senate Democrats if they decide another senator can do better. I don’t think they would do anything until the current session ends in January 2009.


62 posted on 01/02/2008 12:34:16 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: COUNTrecount

puleese, puleese, ...


63 posted on 01/02/2008 12:35:17 PM PST by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: COUNTrecount
Man, it would be awesome if the Clinton Lie Machine was ground into the ground in the next few days. A shellacking in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina would be sweet indeed.
64 posted on 01/02/2008 12:36:46 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: FrdmLvr

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220188506484


65 posted on 01/02/2008 12:38:23 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Zakeet
FWIW, these have been turning up all over town.

What town?!?

66 posted on 01/02/2008 12:39:14 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: All

The edges have been softened for the item’s appearance on a certain auction site. Search: Hillary Clinton miracle image


67 posted on 01/02/2008 12:40:01 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

Hillary & Bill leaving the White House...

68 posted on 01/02/2008 12:44:17 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: mojito
The Clintons aren’t going away any time soon. Stay tuned for lots more drama.

More like a third rate soap opera with really, really bad actors.

69 posted on 01/02/2008 12:57:37 PM PST by dearolddad (Opinions are like rectums: everybody has one.)
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To: dead

Nice job on the picture - she sure does look strange, way too strange for a political life.

We really need to do a DNA test on her.


70 posted on 01/02/2008 1:01:19 PM PST by Sonora
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To: COUNTrecount

Do not rejoice in his defeat, you men. For though the bastard is dead, the bitch that bore him is again in heat.


71 posted on 01/02/2008 1:08:13 PM PST by GeneralisimoFranciscoFranco (I love liberals. They taste like chicken.)
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To: NavyCanDo

Who would of thought that they would still be on top of the political heap 10 years later? The Clintons aren’t going anywhere.

BING-FRIGGIN'-GO...

(Unfortunately!)

72 posted on 01/02/2008 1:26:53 PM PST by Husker8877
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To: COUNTrecount

Flush three times!!!


73 posted on 01/02/2008 1:27:42 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: COUNTrecount


Mrs. Clinton: "It Will Be Me"
74 posted on 01/02/2008 1:44:27 PM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: COUNTrecount
If Hillary loses tomorrow, her presidential bid is likely to collapse like a house of cards.

Great news for New York. She'll be able to continue to dedicate her life to selflessly serving New Yorkers in the Senate. That is why she ran for that job in the first place, right?!

75 posted on 01/02/2008 1:50:05 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: COUNTrecount
Is this the end of the Clintons?

Hell, we're not even rid of Jimmy Carter.

76 posted on 01/02/2008 1:55:29 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: COUNTrecount

Not as long as there are “Caption” threads!


77 posted on 01/02/2008 2:09:15 PM PST by trillabodilla (Jesus Saves)
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To: Cementjungle

See my post #34...


78 posted on 01/02/2008 2:39:36 PM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Cyber Liberty
"Doesn’t matter if she wins or loses this election, they are not “gone.” She’s still Senator-for-Life from NY."

This is correct. The left will never allow her to be defeated in NY, and she will never give up the seat voluntarily, no matter what RFK jr. says. The Kennedys will rue the day she was first elected in NY. Perhaps they already do.

79 posted on 01/02/2008 3:31:26 PM PST by Irene Adler (')
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To: COUNTrecount
Hold your breath:

clintons CHEAT

80 posted on 01/02/2008 3:32:55 PM PST by bannie
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