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To: NYer

Of course, there is absolutely no mention as to which group of fighters is the MUSLIMs.


4 posted on 01/02/2008 10:18:11 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: o_zarkman44

I don’t think so-

Islam is not a major religion in Kenya.


6 posted on 01/02/2008 10:21:11 AM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: o_zarkman44

This is probably more “tribal” in nature and unlike Sudan there is less of a religious component. In Sudan your argument would hold true, and there the issue is discretely hidden away in the political correctness of our MSM which won’t mention other Islamic states financially propping the Islamic government, the blatant and planned displacement of Christians etc etc etc. Sudan is a religious conflict, this is a tribal power play and a semi-stable, semi-modern, African country falling back in time to when they ran around naked with speer’s. Call it racist, I don’t care, that’s exactly what it is. -IMHO


8 posted on 01/02/2008 10:30:14 AM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: o_zarkman44; Beckwith
The killing of up to 50 ethnic Kikuyus as they sheltered in a church in the Rift Valley city of Eldoret fueled fears of deepening tribal conflict in what has been one of Africa's most stable democracies.
The Kikuyu, Kenya's largest ethnic group, are accused of using their dominance of politics and business to the detriment of others. President Mwai Kibaki, who won a second term in the disputed elections, is a Kikuyu, while his rival Rail Odinga is from the Luo tribe, a smaller but still major tribe that says it has been marginalized.

Luo tribe... reminds me of this comment which mentions the church incident:

To: wgflyer

The latest on Obama.

On the 27th, Raila Odinga, Obama’s friend, lost the presidential election in Kenya. Obama and Odinga share the same Luo heritage and history and has made it possible for them to share the same spotlight at this defining moment in Kenyan and American histories about hope and fear.

Raila Odinga has, in his own words, a "close personal friendship" with Obama.

When Obama went to Kenya in August of 2006, he was hosted by Raila and spoke in praise of him at several rallies in Nairobi.  Obama’s bias for his fellow Luo was so blatant that a Kenya government spokesman denounced Obama during his visit as Raila’s "stooge."

When Raila Odinga lost the presidential election to Mwai Kibaki, he claimed the vote was rigged, whereupon his tribal followers went on murderous rampages, such as in the town of Eldoret, where on New Years Day dozens of Christians were burned to death in a church set on fire.  Throughout Kenya, hundreds of people have been politically murdered in the last few days.

Islam had picked Raila to win.

The Evangelical Alliance of Kenya has posted on its website a photograph copy of a Memorandum of Understanding, dated and signed on August 29, 2007, between Raila Odinga and Shiekh Abdullah Abdi, chairman of the National Muslim Leaders Forum of Kenya.

Here is a summary on the agreement which was signed:

* It pledges the support of Kenyan Moslems for Raila’s election.  In return, as President of Kenya, Raila agrees to 14 actions, listed a) through n) on page two.

* Within 6 months re-write the Constitution of Kenya to recognize Shariah as the only true law sanctioned by the Holy Quran for Muslim declared regions.

* Within one year facilitate the establishment of a Shariah court in every Kenyan divisional headquarters.  [Note: everywhere in Kenya, not just in "Muslim declared regions."]

* Popularize Islam, the only true religion… by ordering every primary school in Kenya in the regions to conduct daily Madrassa classes.

* Impose a total ban on open-air gospel crusades by worshippers of the cross…

* Outlaw gospel programs… on KBC, the National Broadcaster.

* Impose a total ban on the public consumption of alcoholic beverages…

* Impose an immediate ban on women’s public dressing styles that are considered immoral and offensive to the Muslim faith…

Obama's involvement in Kenyan politics, whether tribal or religious, is bothersome.

Especially if it is both.

The Obama File

15 posted on 01/07/2008 5:11:00 AM PST by Beckwith

19 posted on 01/09/2008 12:47:45 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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