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The Rising Sea Dragon in Asia (PLAN) - 2008 Update
The Rising Sea Dragon in Asia ^ | January 2, 2008 | Jeff Head

Posted on 01/01/2008 9:26:12 PM PST by Jeff Head

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To: Jeff Head
This is interesting to say the least!

I see the idea is to replace the Phalanx with the rolling airframe missile, at least in the short term. Sounds like it has a good amount of common components as the sidewinder.

That seems like alot and extreme thermal cycling unless the keep it cool DURING operation. High thermal cycle deltas wreck havoc via thermal corrosion and oxidation for even resistant metallic like Haynes 230 and Hastalloy materials....not to mention stress cracking. If your using ceramics and glasses that need to be brazed to metal housings the braze materials are an interesting issue.

I wonder what operational temps they are experiencing now. Thanks for the info. This will be a point of study for me...

81 posted on 01/03/2008 10:18:08 AM PST by griffin (Love Jesus, No Fear!)
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To: griffin
RAM is replacing and supplementing Phalanx throughout the fleet. RAM is a great CIWS.

I expect we will see solid state lasers on warships in the 20-teens. The newer reactors will make it possible and I expect they will dramatically improve defenses. But, there will also then be a technology race in counter-measures as well in terms of making the missiles and projectiles laser resistant (various types of coatings, etc.). That will lead to enventual more exotic directed energy weapons.

But, in the midst of it, I see systems like RAM and improved kinetic weapons (like Phalanx) also remaining in place. Enabling an incoming missle or round to evade all three types will be very difficult.

82 posted on 01/03/2008 10:36:47 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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I don’t know what the time of engagement and retargeting is for the directed energy weapon, but the RAM is nice because it can engage multiples at one time. It also mounts on the existing phalanx mount (with slight mods?).

Sure is a great time to be in the hi-tech arms business.


83 posted on 01/03/2008 10:42:55 AM PST by griffin (Love Jesus, No Fear!)
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To: tarheelswamprat
“For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst and provide for it.”
- Patrick Henry

Bump! Thanks for the blast from the past!

84 posted on 01/03/2008 4:06:38 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: yankeedame
I'm not saying we shouldn't keep our powder dry, but let's not get too Henny-Penny ("...the sky is falling...the sky is falling...") about this.

Who precisely is being Henny-Penny?

With remarks like that...it looks to me like your "powder" is already all-wet.

85 posted on 01/03/2008 4:11:17 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Jeff Head

Mark


86 posted on 01/03/2008 4:16:31 PM PST by sport
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To: Jeff Head

Have they sent a note of thanks to Bill and Hill for letting them have so much assistance with this and to the Congress for refusing to look into it? They could tell them how Riady great it was to give them silent sub technology and other goodies.


87 posted on 01/03/2008 4:25:42 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: Paul Ross
Here's another applicable quote...from a great naval hero in our own history...

"I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." - John Paul Jones

88 posted on 01/04/2008 7:12:30 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: AmericanVictory
The dismantling and standing down of our navy began with Bush Sr. and extended through and accellerated during the Clinton years. It has not been as bad with W, but is still down to some of the lowest levels since before World War II in terms of numbers of ships.

Now those ships are VERY capable...but as the Chinese close the technology gap and produce large numbers, they become a credible threat to take seriously (and I am sure our planners in the Navy and DOD do...its the pols that worry me). And they are spending the money to train and develop their doctrine.

Not saying it is the equal of ours in the least...but in the concentrated spaces over in the Western Pacific which is all they have to worry about to begin with while we plow all seven seas...well, it punctuates the potential.

89 posted on 01/04/2008 7:17:07 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Well, those I work with have been fighting to stop this all along. We agree about Bush the senior, who undid Reagan’s good in many ways.Kinder and weaker was the message. Hard to win with that attitude. Fortunately Maggie was around.


90 posted on 01/04/2008 11:51:04 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: AmericanVictory
Fortunately Maggie was around.

Agreed, kept him from going entirely wobbly, anyways.

But now with her long out of power, its really sad what has happened to "Great" Britain's Royal Navy. Slashed from 44 to 22 ships...in the middile of an ongoing war!

91 posted on 01/04/2008 12:07:31 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: griffin

Check out: “China’s ability to sustain warfare”
at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1948606/posts


92 posted on 01/04/2008 9:32:54 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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