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Britain Drops 'War on Terror' Label
Military.com ^ | December 28, 2007 | Staff

Posted on 01/01/2008 12:15:19 AM PST by america4vr

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To: Wiz

Greetings Wiz:

A label of “cult status” for all facets of Islamic Nazi Fascisim makes a better English to Arabic description; considering the grossly “haraam” behavior of killing innocent civilians.

Too bad the MSM would never accept that reality.

Cheers,
OLA


21 posted on 01/01/2008 3:20:00 AM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (Truth was the first casualty in the MSM's war on President Bush.)
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To: 5050 no line
Well said the British government and the media can say what they like but Brits will say terrorists and WOT amongst themselves, this is just a PR exercise that probably will be forgotten in a few days like when the BBC stopped using the word terrorist, they soon forgot they should not use it and used it again.
22 posted on 01/01/2008 3:21:24 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: gondramB
Good point, maybe global extremist terrorism but that to can be used incorrectly.

The best way to define it to me is Islam fanaticism but then that does not take into account the non muslims who join forces with the these fanatics against the west.

23 posted on 01/01/2008 3:24:46 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: gondramB
I wouldn't say you were in the minority at all. You are still considered a tried and true, full-fledged FReeper.
That is very simply because your perspective on the lexicon of truth, justice and the American way does in no way disqualify you from the majority.

That is because your objection to the specific use of the words War on Terror or Seize That Islamic Jihadist Murderer whom I just witnessed detonating the explosives, is not a matter of reason gone mad,
of political correctness run amok, is not a political statement, but merely a personal preference in how you feel is the best most descriptive form of the term.

Whereas in the case of the mad-cow-disease-ravaged-populance over on that foggy-smoggy Island, the ancestors of whom saved their British arses and sacrificed so much blood, sweat, tears, lives, money, cigarettes, so that their descendants might live in freedom to exercise their rights as citizens of a free sovereign nation to do as they please even to betray, back stab the very county they owe everything to,
put politics first and foremost as the function of the words they use.

24 posted on 01/01/2008 3:35:56 AM PST by america4vr (The ebb and flow of empires have come and gone but America shall forever reign supreme.)
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To: america4vr
London is not a battlefield, he said.

Call it what you like, but in this war everywhere is a ( or a Potential ) battle field.

"The people who were murdered on July 7 were not the victims of war. The men who killed them were not soldiers," Macdonald said. "They were fantasists, narcissists, murderers and criminals and need to be responded to in that way."

Wrong, they were civilian casualties, they were slaughtered without a second thought and their collective deaths celebrated and used for recruitment!

His remarks signal a change in emphasis across Whitehall, where the "war on terror" language has officially been ditched.

Not saying "The War on Terror", might take the "Dirty Taste", out of your mouth but it does not change your situation.

Officials were concerned it could act as a recruiting tool for Al Qaeda, which is determined to manufacture a battle between Islam and the West.

Muslim recruitment is not a result of your verbage, its a result of your denial. That in itself is tool for muslim recruitment. The battle is not Manufactured, its all too real.

Rhetoric wont win this war. Its cultural, its religious ( even if you have no religion ), in the end it will require a great amount of destruction.

In he mean time gordon brown, can continue to lead the quest for the "moderate muslim'..yeah good luck with that.

25 posted on 01/01/2008 3:37:01 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: gondramB
Greetings gondramB:

I never like the use of the term “war on terror” because its undefined and would never end.

Unless I mis-interpreted what you said, let me break this news to you: This war will not end until we surrender to Islam, or destroy the "jihadist's" will to fight.

"Jihad" was declared upon the USA in 1978. It took until September 2001 before a majority of Washington politicians actually realized that in Middle Eastern culture; one means what they say. That means Islamic Nazi Fascists declared war on us.

So when Islamic Nazi Fascists chant "Death to America" or (death to the big Satan) each Sabbath Friday; they really mean it.

Cheers,
OLA

26 posted on 01/01/2008 3:38:58 AM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (Truth was the first casualty in the MSM's war on President Bush.)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican
>>"Jihad" was declared upon the USA in 1978.<<

I'd argue the conflict was inevitable even before that and that earlier incidents such as PLO hijackings were already part of this.

But that goes back to my concern - did you really want President Clinton to have extra-constitutional powers based on this conflict?
27 posted on 01/01/2008 3:51:26 AM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: gondramB

Greetings gondramB:

If our Nation elects “Her Thighness” as CinC; she’ll need all the help she can get. Frankly, I don’t think we’re that dumbed down. Yet.

President *whomever* will have to deal with the Islamic Nazi Fascist movement, for “jihad” will not go away. Personally, the Clintonistas are lothesome; and Slick Willie’s disgusting White house behavior and later perjury did the real damage to our International relations. Even if the left mantra IS otherwise.

Cheers,
OLA


28 posted on 01/01/2008 4:06:26 AM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (Truth was the first casualty in the MSM's war on President Bush.)
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To: 5050 no line

“Kindly dissociate, in what passes for your mind, Brit people from Brit Government.”

Yes, there is a difference between the British people and their government, as the British people are made of sterner stuff. Why they allow their government to insult them and their heritage as it does is beyond me, though. I guess that explains why the British government disarmed its citizens. Taking up scythes and pitchforks looks okay in a literary sense, but such armaments don’t dare well against an armed and oppressive government. Oh, wait; have scythes and pitchforks been banned, as well, just as kitchen knives have been?


29 posted on 01/01/2008 4:35:09 AM PST by ought-six
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To: gondramB
I guess I’ll be in the (probably very small) minority here but I never like the use of the term “war on terror” because its undefined and would never end. My concern is that it could indefinitely serve to justify extra constitutional excess for future administrations with no end in sight.

I agree, for the reasons you stated.

30 posted on 01/01/2008 4:40:31 AM PST by Puddleglum
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To: ought-six

“...but such armaments don’t dare well....”

Uh, that should be FARE well, not dare well.

I need another cup of coffee.


31 posted on 01/01/2008 4:53:26 AM PST by ought-six
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To: 5050 no line

“Kindly dissociate, in what passes for your mind, Brit people from Brit Government.”

What people don’t seem to have noticed is the irony regarding our govt’s actions since 2001: 2 wars/invasions etc from what is basically a collection of moonbats. 25yrs ago the people currently in charge were the total antithesis of everything Thatcher & Reagan stood for; probably the main reason the Labour party was out of power for 18 years. But they’ve used our military in anger far more often than Thatcher.


32 posted on 01/01/2008 5:28:38 AM PST by Mac1
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To: america4vr

Britain Drops ‘War on Terror’ Label...the new labels....Direct from the ministry ~

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.


33 posted on 01/01/2008 6:43:07 AM PST by nyyankeefan
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To: america4vr
The United States should drop the borderline-retarded "War on Terror" designation, as well.

Terror is not our enemy. It is what we should inflict ON our enemies.

"If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." Sun Tzu

34 posted on 01/01/2008 6:49:46 AM PST by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: america4vr

“”””Sir Ken Macdonald said terrorist fanatics were not soldiers fighting a war but simply members of an aimless “death cult.”

The Director of Public Prosecutions said: ‘We resist the language of warfare, and I think the government has moved on this. It no longer uses this sort of language.”

London is not a battlefield, he said.

“The people who were murdered on July 7 were not the victims of war. The men who killed them were not soldiers,” Macdonald said. “They were fantasists, narcissists, murderers and criminals and need to be responded to in that way.”””

I cannot honestly see what is wrong with the above statements.

London isn’t a battlefield. This is nothing. We faced more rubbish when the IRA were doing their thing....and we got over that. The British do not over react and overexaggerate and never have done. It’s not our way.

This isn’t a ‘war’. I don’t even know anybody who seriously even thinks about it a great deal. The struggle against the IRA in the 1970s and 1980s was far more of a concern to the general public.

Terrorism did NOT begin when 9/11 happened you know. It’s old news and it isn’t a big deal to us.


35 posted on 01/01/2008 7:26:20 AM PST by Anfield Red
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To: america4vr
Sir Ken Macdonald said terrorist fanatics were not soldiers fighting a war but simply members of an aimless "death cult."

Only partly true. And then there's this...

London is not a battlefield, he said.

Au contraire my good knight. Everywhere there is Islam, which is not dar al Islam, is a battlefield. Just ask the imams, they will tell you.

5.56mm

36 posted on 01/01/2008 7:33:11 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: america4vr

They move ever closer to the EU, and prefer to stand in opposition to this Great Nation wherever they can.

To think that some Freepers kid themselves that they are an ally of America.


37 posted on 01/02/2008 7:15:17 AM PST by Axlrose
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