Britain Drops 'War on Terror' Label

Military.com ^ | December 28, 2007 | Staff

[america4vr]

The words "war on terror" will no longer be used by the British government to describe attacks on the public, the country's chief prosecutor said Dec. 27.

Sir Ken Macdonald said terrorist fanatics were not soldiers fighting a war but simply members of an aimless "death cult."

The Director of Public Prosecutions said: 'We resist the language of warfare, and I think the government has moved on this. It no longer uses this sort of language."

London is not a battlefield, he said.

"The people who were murdered on July 7 were not the victims of war. The men who killed them were not soldiers," Macdonald said. "They were fantasists, narcissists, murderers and criminals and need to be responded to in that way."

His remarks signal a change in emphasis across Whitehall, where the "war on terror" language has officially been ditched.

Officials were concerned it could act as a recruiting tool for Al Qaeda, which is determined to manufacture a battle between Islam and the West.

The term "Islamic terrorist" will also no longer be used. Officials believe it is unhelpful because it appears to directly link the religion to terrorist atrocities.

In an interview with BBC Radio's World at One, Macdonald made a fresh attack on plans to extend beyond 28 days the length of time a terror suspect can be held without trial.

He said that the evidence had shown that the existing limit was working well and he accused ministers of legislating on the basis of 'hypotheticals'.

[OneLoyalAmerican]

Greetings Wiz:

A label of “cult status” for all facets of Islamic Nazi Fascisim makes a better English to Arabic description; considering the grossly “haraam” behavior of killing innocent civilians.

Too bad the MSM would never accept that reality.

Cheers,
OLA

[snugs]

Well said the British government and the media can say what they like but Brits will say terrorists and WOT amongst themselves, this is just a PR exercise that probably will be forgotten in a few days like when the BBC stopped using the word terrorist, they soon forgot they should not use it and used it again.

[snugs]

Good point, maybe global extremist terrorism but that to can be used incorrectly.

The best way to define it to me is Islam fanaticism but then that does not take into account the non muslims who join forces with the these fanatics against the west.

[america4vr]

I wouldn't say you were in the minority at all. You are still considered a tried and true, full-fledged FReeper.
That is very simply because your perspective on the lexicon of truth, justice and the American way does in no way disqualify you from the majority.

That is because your objection to the specific use of the words War on Terror or Seize That Islamic Jihadist Murderer whom I just witnessed detonating the explosives, is not a matter of reason gone mad,
of political correctness run amok, is not a political statement, but merely a personal preference in how you feel is the best most descriptive form of the term.

Whereas in the case of the mad-cow-disease-ravaged-populance over on that foggy-smoggy Island, the ancestors of whom saved their British arses and sacrificed so much blood, sweat, tears, lives, money, cigarettes, so that their descendants might live in freedom to exercise their rights as citizens of a free sovereign nation to do as they please even to betray, back stab the very county they owe everything to,
put politics first and foremost as the function of the words they use.

[Kakaze]

London is not a battlefield, he said.

Call it what you like, but in this war everywhere is a ( or a Potential ) battle field.

"The people who were murdered on July 7 were not the victims of war. The men who killed them were not soldiers," Macdonald said. "They were fantasists, narcissists, murderers and criminals and need to be responded to in that way."

Wrong, they were civilian casualties, they were slaughtered without a second thought and their collective deaths celebrated and used for recruitment!

His remarks signal a change in emphasis across Whitehall, where the "war on terror" language has officially been ditched.

Not saying "The War on Terror", might take the "Dirty Taste", out of your mouth but it does not change your situation.

Officials were concerned it could act as a recruiting tool for Al Qaeda, which is determined to manufacture a battle between Islam and the West.

Muslim recruitment is not a result of your verbage, its a result of your denial. That in itself is tool for muslim recruitment. The battle is not Manufactured, its all too real.

Rhetoric wont win this war. Its cultural, its religious ( even if you have no religion ), in the end it will require a great amount of destruction.

In he mean time gordon brown, can continue to lead the quest for the "moderate muslim'..yeah good luck with that.

[OneLoyalAmerican]

Greetings gondramB:

I never like the use of the term “war on terror” because its undefined and would never end.

Unless I mis-interpreted what you said, let me break this news to you: This war will not end until we surrender to Islam, or destroy the "jihadist's" will to fight.

"Jihad" was declared upon the USA in 1978. It took until September 2001 before a majority of Washington politicians actually realized that in Middle Eastern culture; one means what they say. That means Islamic Nazi Fascists declared war on us.

So when Islamic Nazi Fascists chant "Death to America" or (death to the big Satan) each Sabbath Friday; they really mean it.

Cheers,
OLA

[gondramB]

>>"Jihad" was declared upon the USA in 1978.<<

I'd argue the conflict was inevitable even before that and that earlier incidents such as PLO hijackings were already part of this.

But that goes back to my concern - did you really want President Clinton to have extra-constitutional powers based on this conflict?

[OneLoyalAmerican]

Greetings gondramB:

If our Nation elects “Her Thighness” as CinC; she’ll need all the help she can get. Frankly, I don’t think we’re that dumbed down. Yet.

President *whomever* will have to deal with the Islamic Nazi Fascist movement, for “jihad” will not go away. Personally, the Clintonistas are lothesome; and Slick Willie’s disgusting White house behavior and later perjury did the real damage to our International relations. Even if the left mantra IS otherwise.

Cheers,
OLA

[ought-six]

“Kindly dissociate, in what passes for your mind, Brit people from Brit Government.”

Yes, there is a difference between the British people and their government, as the British people are made of sterner stuff. Why they allow their government to insult them and their heritage as it does is beyond me, though. I guess that explains why the British government disarmed its citizens. Taking up scythes and pitchforks looks okay in a literary sense, but such armaments don’t dare well against an armed and oppressive government. Oh, wait; have scythes and pitchforks been banned, as well, just as kitchen knives have been?

[Puddleglum]

I guess I’ll be in the (probably very small) minority here but I never like the use of the term “war on terror” because its undefined and would never end. My concern is that it could indefinitely serve to justify extra constitutional excess for future administrations with no end in sight.

I agree, for the reasons you stated.

[ought-six]

“...but such armaments don’t dare well....”

Uh, that should be FARE well, not dare well.

I need another cup of coffee.

[Mac1]

“Kindly dissociate, in what passes for your mind, Brit people from Brit Government.”

What people don’t seem to have noticed is the irony regarding our govt’s actions since 2001: 2 wars/invasions etc from what is basically a collection of moonbats. 25yrs ago the people currently in charge were the total antithesis of everything Thatcher & Reagan stood for; probably the main reason the Labour party was out of power for 18 years. But they’ve used our military in anger far more often than Thatcher.

[nyyankeefan]

Britain Drops ‘War on Terror’ Label...the new labels....Direct from the ministry ~

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

[Jim Noble]

The United States should drop the borderline-retarded "War on Terror" designation, as well.

Terror is not our enemy. It is what we should inflict ON our enemies.

"If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." Sun Tzu

[Anfield Red]

“”””Sir Ken Macdonald said terrorist fanatics were not soldiers fighting a war but simply members of an aimless “death cult.”

The Director of Public Prosecutions said: ‘We resist the language of warfare, and I think the government has moved on this. It no longer uses this sort of language.”

London is not a battlefield, he said.

“The people who were murdered on July 7 were not the victims of war. The men who killed them were not soldiers,” Macdonald said. “They were fantasists, narcissists, murderers and criminals and need to be responded to in that way.”””

I cannot honestly see what is wrong with the above statements.

London isn’t a battlefield. This is nothing. We faced more rubbish when the IRA were doing their thing....and we got over that. The British do not over react and overexaggerate and never have done. It’s not our way.

This isn’t a ‘war’. I don’t even know anybody who seriously even thinks about it a great deal. The struggle against the IRA in the 1970s and 1980s was far more of a concern to the general public.

Terrorism did NOT begin when 9/11 happened you know. It’s old news and it isn’t a big deal to us.

[M Kehoe]

Sir Ken Macdonald said terrorist fanatics were not soldiers fighting a war but simply members of an aimless "death cult."

Only partly true. And then there's this...

London is not a battlefield, he said.

Au contraire my good knight. Everywhere there is Islam, which is not dar al Islam, is a battlefield. Just ask the imams, they will tell you.

5.56mm

[Axlrose]

They move ever closer to the EU, and prefer to stand in opposition to this Great Nation wherever they can.

To think that some Freepers kid themselves that they are an ally of America.