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Bhutto 'blocked from hiring US bodyguards'(Blackwater)
The SundayTelegraph,U.K ^ | 31/12/2007 | Philip Sherwell

Posted on 12/30/2007 8:53:39 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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& Some say Bhutto didn't mind getting blown up....
1 posted on 12/30/2007 8:53:41 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

But, but, I thought the MSM said that Blackwater was evil.


2 posted on 12/30/2007 8:54:39 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

thanks for posting this, it makes more sense. As we here know, ya can’t always believe what the press initially reports


3 posted on 12/30/2007 8:58:47 PM PST by RDTF
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"Her death leaves the US with a Pakistan policy that is completely bankrupt"

What crap.

...and now the Communist DUmmies are confused deciding how to blame the Evil Bush Regime for not sending the Evil Blackwater Death Squad.

4 posted on 12/30/2007 9:00:10 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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But the plans collapsed because President Pervez Musharraf refused to allow the foreign contractors to operate in Pakistan, according to senior aides.

Nothing to see here, Musharraf is our friend. Let's give him another $10 billion and more weapons.

5 posted on 12/30/2007 9:00:16 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (13-3 Green Bay Packers - The road to the Super Bowl begins NOW)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Hope the weapons include AMRAAMs to shoot down Osama’s stealth carpets.


6 posted on 12/30/2007 9:01:22 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Bookmarking for later. Thanks!


7 posted on 12/30/2007 9:02:18 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Who exactly was it that forced Ms. Bhutto to stand up through the sun roof, in pebble-tossing range of 100s?

If she was so terrified about her safety, why did she stand up and make herself such an easy taraget?


8 posted on 12/30/2007 9:02:36 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
This was despite Washington seeing Ms Bhutto as a lynchpin in its crucial diplomatic attempt to encourage Pakistan to return to democracy.

I think they meant the Washington press and maybe a few libs at the State Department.

9 posted on 12/30/2007 9:03:07 PM PST by OCC
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I think the fact that she was standing through the sunroof was telling. It appears that she didn’t take her security that seriously, for whatever reason.


10 posted on 12/30/2007 9:05:56 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: Travis McGee

Firstly,Bhutto was campaigning in an election,where she was arguably the frontrunner to win.Anyone who has observed politics in Asia(or anywhere outside the world) will tell you that leaders have to take such risks to build a rapport with the masses.It’s the price to pay for power.Foolish maybe,but that’s the truth.Leaders who have an equal or higher threat perception than Benazir have been doing that for ages-how have they survived?


11 posted on 12/30/2007 9:06:57 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Cicero

Aaaah. But Blackwater does a good job and they will die before they will let die the people they protect. She should have tried to bring them in anyway. Musharraf would have buckled.


12 posted on 12/30/2007 9:10:45 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

We should support Mushareff’s rule for at least another 10 years, till Pakistan is ready for democracy. We don’t want to make the same mistake we made with the Shah.


13 posted on 12/30/2007 9:12:55 PM PST by FFranco
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

President Pervez Musharraf walk the walk all these years for what so Bhutto could capitalized off of it. I am sorry for the way it ended but that area is a kindle box, she should have volunteered to work with Musharraf in some capacity she wants to return and dismantle all the safty nets that were put in place.

I don’t fine her having the country interest at heart but her own power resrored.

I trust President Pervez Musharraf to know the ins and outs of what needed to be done in this time in histroy it is not like things were calm over there.

I think our state department had a hand in underminding this they are not friends to Bush but to the Dems.


14 posted on 12/30/2007 9:21:26 PM PST by restornu (Can you be a Reagan Conservative and a Bully at the Same Time?)
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To: Travis McGee
If she was so terrified about her safety, why did she stand up and make herself such an easy target?

Or, if she just had to stand and wave, she should have invested into her own Popemobile. It can't be that expensive, look at the pictures; probably the whole job can be done within $10K (a decent camper costs about $20K, as a comparison.) If she couldn't afford that she should have stayed home.

Basically, her murder wouldn't be prevented even by a brigade of Secret Service agents, as long as she is not listening to their demands. A group of SS agents would be probably able to take out a lone gunman at a close range, but that only would require a sniper 100 yards away; in such a crowd nobody would have seen him. A suicide bomber is even less detectable; the security detail would simply have to keep a large empty space around the car - something that Bhutto would be complaining about. Security can be provided only if the protected person does what his protectors tell him, quickly, correctly and without debate.

15 posted on 12/30/2007 9:21:49 PM PST by Greysard
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“It’s odd and disturbing that the Pakistan government did not do a better job of protecting her and that the US apparently could not do more to persuade them,” said Bruce Riedel, a former CIA officer and former National Security Council director for South Asia. “I can’t explain why the Bush administration didn’t pressure Musharraf to do more. Her death leaves the US with a Pakistan policy that is completely bankrupt.”

Bruce now works for the liberal think-tank, the Brookings Institute. He also worked with Bubba Clinton on Mideast “peace process”. To him, Bubba could do no wrong.

http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC07.php?CID=75


16 posted on 12/30/2007 9:25:07 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki; Dog

Holy crap...... this is enlightening. The more we learn the more we see who is to blame for this.


17 posted on 12/30/2007 9:25:21 PM PST by The Mayor ( A man's heart plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps.—Proverbs 16:9)
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But, but, Blackwater guys are all evil and bad and they should be banned, outlawed, and and and. Our liberals say that, and even though some of our politicians use them for their security they stay silent when back in the US, and they allow the trash talkers to spew their venom without ever raising an objection about baseless accusations against those who were protecting THEM in part while in Iraq/Afghanistan etc.

What happened with Bhutto is the perfect example of WHY you use organizations like Blackwater, Triple Canopy, Aries, or DynCorps. They are professionals and they are loyal to their employer who pays them. They have the assets in people, hardware and size as well as established systems to do the job right; they have talented, experienced, highly motivated, well resourced people that are “trustworthy” (Something not common). They are not infiltrated with people who have conflicts of interests and a Karzai (DynCorps) can be confident he’s in good hands.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,62152,00.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/04/07/attack/main548061.shtml

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/09/16/afghanistan.karzai/index.html

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/06/10/asia/AS-GEN-Afghan-Violence.php

BTH, the same liberal media which attacked Blackwater in Iraq attacked DynCorps in Afghanistan for being “too heavy handed” as well. Dammed if you do, dammed if you don’t – now with Bhutto they spin it in a way that is 180 degrees contradicting of what they argued just three months ago.


18 posted on 12/30/2007 9:31:17 PM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie; Fedora
Bruce Riedel, a former CIA officer and former National Security Council director for South Asia.

Bruce now works for the liberal think-tank, the Brookings Institute. He also worked with Bubba Clinton on Mideast “peace process”

He's also quoted by Ray McGovern of VIPS, IIRC, in an article on the recent "Iran nukes R&D" NIE ... and he's quoted in articles on lefty sites about allegations of torture on KSM. VIPS is the pro-leak group which pitched a fit over the Valerie Plame CIA leak a while back...

19 posted on 12/30/2007 9:37:29 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The security there was non-existent. Driving in an open car at low speed with people able to walk right up to it! Rule #1 - A bomb-proof car will not protect the client if her head is sticking out through a sun roof. Blackwater could have told her that.


20 posted on 12/30/2007 9:39:09 PM PST by Steve_Seattle (|)
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