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Onus on providers to clean up web content (Australia)
News.com.au ^ | December 31, 2007 | Lachlan Heywood

Posted on 12/30/2007 1:17:40 PM PST by generalhammond

EVERY Australian with an internet connection could soon have their web content automatically censored.

The restrictions are planned by the Federal Government to give greater protection to children from online pornography and violent websites.

Under the plan, all internet service providers will have to provide a "clean" feed to households and schools, free of pornography and other "inappropriate" material.

Australians who want uncensored access to the web will have to contact their internet service provider and "opt out" of the service.

Online civil libertarians yesterday warned the freedom of the internet was at stake, while internet providers were concerned the new measures could slow the internet in Australia to a crawl.

They said it was a measure usually associated with oppressive regimes and was no alternative to proper parental monitoring.

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: freespeech; internet; labor
This new Labor government hasn't even taken a full breath yet in government and already it's full steam ahead with their leftist nanny state agenda. Let the state look after all your responsibilities, especially parental ones.
1 posted on 12/30/2007 1:17:42 PM PST by generalhammond
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To: generalhammond

To be fair, the reason the Labor government can do this so quickly is because all the planning for it was done by the previous conservative Liberal government.

All it actually does is require ISPs to make available a censored feed for those who want it. If you want an uncensored feed, you can have it.


2 posted on 12/30/2007 1:23:16 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: generalhammond
I think its a darn good idea... those who want to watch porn can always opt out of the family-friendly Internet. There are certain things I'd rather not have my children be exposed to and I can't supervise them all the time.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manue

3 posted on 12/30/2007 1:23:56 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: generalhammond

The Aussies already surrendered their right to own guns. The only one who actually FOUGHT it there was Crocodile Dundee - the REAL one...and they killed him, a la Waco. So, why should they complain about losing THESE rights?


4 posted on 12/30/2007 1:24:36 PM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: naturalman1975
Exactly. You still have a choice. I think it empowers Australian consumers and families.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manue

5 posted on 12/30/2007 1:25:07 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: generalhammond

I think that bureaucrats who censor web content are a bunch of [CENSORED]!


6 posted on 12/30/2007 1:34:26 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: 2harddrive

Over a million Australians own guns perfectly legally under Australian law. I’m one of them.

As for the ‘real Crocodile Dundee’, Rod Ansell, he was shot dead by police after he opened fire without warning on them at a road block, set up to arrest him for attempted murder.

He had, in the previous twenty four hours, fired shots into the homes of two different families (one of which had a ten year old daughter - he wounded a neighbour who came to help that family).

He crept up on the police road block, and from cover, opened fire on a young man who was asking the police for directions. He then continued firing, mortally wounding Police Sergeant Glen Huitson - the first Northern Territory police officer murdered on duty in nearly fifty years - before being shot dead by Police Constable James O’Brien who had stood his ground with a pistol as Ansell advanced on him with a 30.30 rifle.

Ansell was not killed a la Waco. He was a man who’d lost all sense of reason and had gone on a rampage.


7 posted on 12/30/2007 1:35:42 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: goldstategop

Oil and maple syrup dressing?


8 posted on 12/30/2007 1:43:08 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: generalhammond
Would someone please show me in the U.S. Constitution where we are guaranteed the "rights" of pornography, sodomy and abortion........I'm having trouble locating these "rights".........

I find it impossible to believe that the so called "rights" of pornography, sodomy and abortion are God given, thus afforded protection by government.......instead, they are in reality manufactured "rights", created by men who deem themselves smarter than God..............

These manufactured "rights" are the roadsigns to Utopian Socialism............or in other words............on the path of fall and decline.........

9 posted on 12/30/2007 1:49:31 PM PST by AwesomePossum
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To: goldstategop

I see nobody’s asking for the days before the “do not call” list for our telephones.


10 posted on 12/30/2007 2:38:09 PM PST by Does so (...against all enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign...)
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To: goldstategop
It's a good idea in theory, and I hope it works out, but if the filtered connection is significantly slower than the unfiltered one, a lot of people are likely to opt out due to the frustration of having a slow connection. The computational power required for the filters could grind those connections to a halt in Australia. Also, the filter is likely to fail in many cases. Unacceptable content will get through, and acceptable content will get blocked. I suspect it will turn out to be impractical and be abandoned.

The Internet community missed a huge opportunity to overcome that issue by assigning a range of IPv6 addresses for the pornographic sites. It would have been efficient for a router to filter out that range without affecting the overall speed of connections, and in my opinion, an IP range regulation would have survived the court challenges.

Some people who are ignorant of marketing and the architecture of the Internet have proposed a dot-xxx top-level domain as a filtering solution, but that would only increased the amount of pornographic material on the Internet, and any clever teenager could get around it by using the IP address instead of the host name. And unlike an IP-range solution, the dot-xxx solution probably would not survive a legal challenge.

11 posted on 12/30/2007 2:52:33 PM PST by HAL9000 (Fred Thompson/Mike Huckabee 2008)
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To: naturalman1975

Thanks for that input on Rod Ansel. I had not heard that side of the story!


12 posted on 12/30/2007 4:01:04 PM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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Shouldn’t there be an easier way to provide ‘clean’ internet? The inappropriate sites have to be marked somehow in order to be left out of the ‘clean’ feed. Therefore, it shouldn’t be excessively difficult to just to offer some sort of software that blocks the inappropriate sites instead of creating an entire seperate ‘feed’ that doesn’t even include them. Some sort of browser add-on would seem to be the easiest choice - if the parents want filtered internet, they can just take five minutes to download a little bit of software and set up a few controls.


13 posted on 12/30/2007 4:03:52 PM PST by Hyzenthlay (1 4m t3h 1337 h4x0r ch1x!!!!111!!1ONE)
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To: goldstategop
You still have a choice. I think it empowers Australian consumers and families.

Of course they'll tell you you're getting a completely uncensored feed. It may be completely uncensored or it may be just a bit less censored.

Maybe you'll just notice certain websites that have not so politically correct opinions don't seem to load anymore.

As for me, if there's any censoring to do I can do it on my end.

14 posted on 12/30/2007 5:32:13 PM PST by seowulf
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The thing here is “opt out”, and “opt in”. If it’s an opt-in system, I have no problem with it. And the fact remains there’s an abundance of programs designed to protect kids on the internet.

And it’s not so much about porn, either. It’s the fact the government is SAYING WHAT WE CAN AND CAN’T WATCH. Now, here’s the clincher. Do you really trust nice ol’ Mr. Gubermint with your freedom of information?

As a user of the school-based internet here in Australia, (and if anyone here takes any TAFE courses, they’ll understand what I’m talking about), the measures enacted to “protect” children at school go FAR beyond useful. They’re draconian. Under the school guidelines, this site should be blocked (for some reason, it’s not, possibly because it doesn’t use a standard forum layout).

Under the school guidelines, half the HISTORICAL information I want to access is blocked.

This isn’t a question of morality - it’s not exactly hard to get porn, and there’s no way they can block every single site out there. It’s a question of how much you want the nanny-state to regulate your life.


15 posted on 12/30/2007 5:34:44 PM PST by Aussieteen
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I think its a darn good idea... those who want to watch porn can always opt out of the family-friendly Internet.

Fine by me as long as YOU pay for the ISP's costs of constantly monitoring a virtually unmonitorable Internet to make sure that no objectionable material gets through to your children whom you don't have the time to monitor.

Also, this could work if the nanny-powers-that-be include wording in the legislation that will hold the ISP harmless if it slips up and misses a porn site posing as, say, a Harry Potter fan club. Fat chance. It will end up as an excuse to censor the whole thing just as surely as Iran and China do.

I think the whole idea is naive, foolish, unnecessary and ultimately dangerous, all of which certainly means that it will be proposed in the U.S. shortly.

16 posted on 12/30/2007 5:52:24 PM PST by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: goldstategop
But you can and should use the features that come with your web browser to restrict what your children have access to, and use a password so that it can only be changed by you. I find this more acceptable than censorship.

Tools, Internet Options, Content, Content Advisor, Enable. The rest is up to you (provided you use IE).

17 posted on 12/30/2007 6:01:40 PM PST by SALChamps03
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