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New cars that are fully loaded — with debt
Los Angeles Times ^ | December 30, 2007 | Ken Bensinger

Posted on 12/30/2007 9:21:09 AM PST by jeannineinsd

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To: jeannineinsd
The Posts were a little worried about taking on such a long obligation, but they couldn't pass up a monthly payment under $700

You have got to be kidding me.

41 posted on 12/30/2007 9:39:47 AM PST by Rush4U
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To: rom
But, public schools have failed most kids who lack a basic understanding of money — to the point where salesmen now ask, “How much do you want to pay a month?”

I got suckered by that line once in the late 80's, but never again.

I refuse to discuss monthly payments with the salesmen, which does make them a little crazy. I won't use their financing, either, unless they can beat Navy Federal. So far nobody has been able to come close.

42 posted on 12/30/2007 9:40:03 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.)
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To: jeannineinsd

Kinda like the current mortgage “crisis” except there’s not as much money involved.


43 posted on 12/30/2007 9:40:25 AM PST by upchuck (And Senator Clinton's experience is................................. where? What? When?)
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To: jeannineinsd
"I didn't realize how much debt was in it," said Jennifer Post

Great googly moogly, do these people never read what they are signing? Is there a generation of people who have no money sense whatsoever?

My car is paid for, and I am going to run it into the ground. People constantly buy more than they can afford...cars, houses, etc.

It takes the whole "keeping up with the Joneses" to a frightening level.

44 posted on 12/30/2007 9:40:55 AM PST by RikaStrom (The number one rule of the Kama Sutra is that you both be on the same page.../Exeter 051705)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Why do people see cars as an asset? They’re just vehicles that should serve it’s purpose.
I have a 2001 Chevy Cavalier that’s still going strong and it’s completely paid off. I’m running it into the ground until it resembles the Flintstone car.”

Uneducated, or blinded by the need for instant gratification.

I’m a car guy. I love cars, but you’re on the right track. My wife’s 2000 Voyager - paid for. My 2002 Bonneville - paid for. I have a toy, an 87 Corvette, I owe a few bucks on it, but these idiots will pay more in a year than I owe on my toy.

Cars are a liablity. Nothing about them, is an investment. Even if you have a classic car that appreciates over time, you’d be better off putting the money in a CD. You have to realize a car is a necessity, or a luxury, or a hobby, but never an investment.


45 posted on 12/30/2007 9:41:11 AM PST by brownsfan (America has "jumped the shark")
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To: jeannineinsd

“I have had an occasionally thought as to how so many people can afford such expensive vehicles”

Usually they lease them..this is the first I’ve heard of a 7 yr. upside down loan.
This is similar to giving folks money for houses they cannot afford.

The good news...there will be many gently used used vehicles being returned to the market for re-sell.


46 posted on 12/30/2007 9:41:22 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

My view is that all cars eventually become crappy money pits. I get something economical, dependable and drive it until the wheels come off. In the meantime, save for the next one.


47 posted on 12/30/2007 9:41:30 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: ex-Texan

Car loans with the same creative interest.


48 posted on 12/30/2007 9:41:59 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Abigail Adams
"Wow, they are happy to have a payment under $700? I bet they could buy a small house for that kind of monthy payment."

Not even in Victorville - yet.

49 posted on 12/30/2007 9:42:24 AM PST by norton (deep down inside you know that Fred is your second choice)
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To: jeannineinsd
When Jennifer and Bobby Post traded in their 2001 Chevy Suburban last year for a shiny new Ford F-350 turbo diesel with an extended cab, it seemed like a great deal.

Another case of Americnaitisgottohaveitrightnowis

50 posted on 12/30/2007 9:43:13 AM PST by am452 (Globalist: Converting the American people to the Democrat party since 1992)
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To: jeannineinsd

>>>I would rather drive a less expensive car that I could actually afford.

That’s what we do.


51 posted on 12/30/2007 9:43:36 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: upchuck

“Kinda like the current mortgage “crisis” except there’s not as much money involved.”

Might be more money involved. Smaller amounts in each instance, but lots more people doing it. Not to mention, those that bought homes expecting huge increases in equity are now using their credit cards for routine expenses.

The credit bust is 2 stage, and we haven’t had part 2 hit the fan yet.


52 posted on 12/30/2007 9:43:48 AM PST by brownsfan (America has "jumped the shark")
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To: jeannineinsd
I have had an occasionally thought as to how so many people can afford such expensive vehicles (We can't).

"Do you have a job? Do you have 99 dollars? Do you want a new car? ..."

53 posted on 12/30/2007 9:44:15 AM PST by JoeGar
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To: BigFinn

Ford F-350 turbo diesel with an extended cab,

That’s one hell of a truck, normally used for commercial or business purposes. What are they towing, Mobile Homes?

The story doesn’t give the real story . . were they buying this for business purposes?

I guess they were “unaware” that the payments went on for 7 years? Well, I guess just make them pay for 3 years and let the dealer cover the rest.


54 posted on 12/30/2007 9:45:32 AM PST by barryg
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To: jeannineinsd
Its really stupid to finance another vehicle on a trade-off you didn't pay off free and clear.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

55 posted on 12/30/2007 9:46:24 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Tracker47

“To quote Dave Ramsey, “Act your Wage!” “

I love Dave Ramsey.


56 posted on 12/30/2007 9:46:52 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: All

Last year I bought a 1996 4WD ford explorer from my cousin for $2.000.

She serviced it several times a year and it was all documented. When I got it, it had 142K miles, but the engine doesnt knock and it doesnt use any appreciable oil.

I use it for my work vehicle. It has leather seats, a great stereo and an air conditioner that will run you out of the truck on a hot summer day its so cold.

I anticipate another two years out of this vehicle, then I’ll find another.

I have a friend who just paid off a GMC Yukon full size SUV. His payments were $1k PER MONTH.

I could not conceive a car payment like that.


57 posted on 12/30/2007 9:47:12 AM PST by Armedanddangerous (Chuin, Master of Sinanju (emeritus))
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To: ConservativeMind

Buy a vehicle that retains its value over time:

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Not me, I prefer to buy a 2-3 year old car which has depreciated a lot before I bought it. Just a lot more car for the money and someone else took the hit.


58 posted on 12/30/2007 9:47:54 AM PST by I_Like_Spam
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To: jeannineinsd
She recently tried to refinance her mortgage, she said, but was declined because her car payments were too high. "Not one dealer ever said this was a problem. Ever. I never had a dealership say no."

So it's the car dealer fault you were greedy and short sighted ?

Must be a liberal

59 posted on 12/30/2007 9:48:00 AM PST by Popman ("We are going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton)
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To: jeannineinsd
"The Posts were a little worried about taking on such a long obligation, but they couldn't pass up a monthly payment under $700. Now they're having regrets."

Hence the saying, "Dumb as a Post."

60 posted on 12/30/2007 9:48:21 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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