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1 posted on 12/30/2007 8:51:22 AM PST by saganite
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We think of them as loud, hard to start and foul-smelling

But that's only because they're loud, hard to start, and foul-smelling.

2 posted on 12/30/2007 8:54:47 AM PST by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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there’s not much difference in price today between diesel and gasoline


4 posted on 12/30/2007 8:57:59 AM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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Watch Congress come up with a way to further handicap diesels. You read it here first.


5 posted on 12/30/2007 8:59:35 AM PST by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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The answer is not Diesel it is HCCI, it just make take 5 to 7 years to get here.

Also it is harder to get a Diesel to burn other fuels than it is to get a gas engine to burn propane, ethanol etc.

An engine that can burn anything is the way we need to go, and as far as I know only a handful of Military Diesel Tanks were Omnivorous.

These folks have the solution: www.flexdi.com

Now if they can only get it run in HCCI mode....

An Omnivorous HCCI engine running at a constant RPM in a Series Hybrid like the Chevy Volt is the solution....

6 posted on 12/30/2007 9:01:45 AM PST by taildragger
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So why not a diesel hybrid?


8 posted on 12/30/2007 9:02:34 AM PST by Hawthorn
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I recently replaced my gas-powered 454 1-ton GMC crew cab dually with the same size Chev dually powered by a Duramax Diesel. Mileage has improved, both towing and not towing, by 70%. The Duramax will pay for itself in 3 years with the savings, and the power hauling up long grades is awesome.


9 posted on 12/30/2007 9:03:35 AM PST by Reo
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The diesel is the great grandfather of the jet engine.

And the diesel is more efficient today than the modern computerized gasoline engines.
10 posted on 12/30/2007 9:03:48 AM PST by wrench
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FYI


11 posted on 12/30/2007 9:03:56 AM PST by sausageseller (http://coolblue.typepad.com/the_cool_blue_blog/)
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Fact is, we’ve made enormous strides in both fuel efficiency and emissions over the last thirty years. But the enviros are still making the political argument that we’re destroying the planet.


36 posted on 12/30/2007 9:22:58 AM PST by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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Thanks for the article. I’m looking to replace an old SUV and am looking at a Mercedes diesel SUV, among others. This is an interesting read.


39 posted on 12/30/2007 9:27:26 AM PST by blau993 (Fight Gerbil Swarming)
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I’ve got a Cummins diesel Ram and love the power and MPG. We get 20-22MPG on the highway in an 8,000 lb 4WD truck. It has 120,000 miles on it which is considered “broke in” in diesel terms. There are many of the 5.9 Cummins known to have exceeded 1M miles without major engine work.

It’s a tad loud, but starts like a champ down to -10F and doesn’t smell. Below -10F, you do need to use the block heater and anti-gel.


44 posted on 12/30/2007 9:34:22 AM PST by IamConservative (Only two have offered to die for a stranger; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier)
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VW built a diesel car that got over 50 MPG way back in the early 80s. But the thing was about as gutless as anything.

Then they turbo’d it. And the thing got better and better.

BTW..beware of the new diesels. They now have what they call a ash pan. I understand on the VW that the ash pan cannot simply be emptied. It has to be taken off and a new one installed, and it COST $1000.00. I do not know about the others...Cummins in the Dodges, Navistar in the Ferds and Isuzu in the GMs. I suspect they will have to do the same.


45 posted on 12/30/2007 9:37:59 AM PST by crz
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Volkswagen Polo on our cover, which gets ,74.3 mpg probably aren’t coming to the U.S. anytime soon. Right now, even the best of these European diesels don’t meet the emissions standards in the five states that follow California clean-air regulations.

Automakers will have to produce vehicle fleets capable of achieving 35mpg by 2020 under the energy legislation that President Bush just signed into law.


Looks to me someone wants to keep the diesels out of the USA.
So that we keep up spending more and more of our money on gasoline.
The clean Air act might be used as an excuse.
46 posted on 12/30/2007 9:39:32 AM PST by modican
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One other thing. My brother bought a Ford Hybred. He was cackling about the 34 MPG he was getting with it. BLAH BLAH BLAH! On it went..till I ask if it would ever get 54 MPG like my VW bug has got on the road and 48 MPG it gets average. And that is from a 2000 model!

He shut up.


48 posted on 12/30/2007 9:43:48 AM PST by crz
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We rented a VW diesel in Scotland a few months ago. D@mn nice car. I might have to buy one.


54 posted on 12/30/2007 10:02:32 AM PST by Captain Pike
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I’m holding out for a diesel Honda Element. When Honda makes one, I’m buying it.


60 posted on 12/30/2007 10:39:50 AM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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I REALLY would like a new Jetta Diesel-— but the problem with buying a diesel now - the new fuel standards and engines require the newer ultra-low sulfur fuel - which I have yet to see a station carry yet. So buy a diesel today - and cannot fuel it up tomorrow... not a good proposition.

That being said - I saw a 2007 Jeep Liberty 4X4 Diesel the other day that I was seriously tempted to buy.

Get the fuel supply issue taken care of (without further skinning the consumer with crazy prices) and Diesel looks promising.


72 posted on 12/30/2007 11:32:28 AM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please help us to elect a Godly and patriotic man for President in 08, Amen.)
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FR bookmark


85 posted on 12/30/2007 12:18:12 PM PST by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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I have had a auto trans diesel for the last 20 years. When it was new it got 16 mpg, today after 200,000 miles it gets 15.5 mpg. The truck weighs 6500 pounds empty. a typical gas engined truck of the same model and power would be lucky to get 11 mpg.

Diesels are only good for about 30% improvement in mpg, and yes they run fine on veggie oils. The original diesel was made to use peanut oil as fuel. But magic bullet, I think not.

113 posted on 12/30/2007 3:43:57 PM PST by Tarpon (Ignorance, the most expensive commodity produced by mankind.)
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An earlier review of the VW Polo Here.
114 posted on 12/30/2007 3:44:04 PM PST by sono (Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.)
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