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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The reason NYC has a teacher shortage is that teachers are in physical danger at many of those public schools. Same thing in the barrio schools in L.A.

A friend of mine recently started teaching math (one of the teaching specialties with relatively high demand) at a "inner city" Chicago Public high school.

Her starting salary was $32,000.

A good chunk of that goes to repay student loans - and her degree is from a relatively inexpensive state college.

With her intelligence and personality she could be making 10-15K more in the private sector with better long term prospects, and a lot less job related stress.

Pretty hard to see why anyone you would want doing her job would stay in it for more than a few years - they either change careers, or move to better paying lower stress jobs in suburban districts.

Thee are a lot of other reasons why the job is almost impossible - poorly socialized students, large classes and union and management politics being near the top of the list.

But the truth is we need to pay people like her a lot better, or they are not going to stay around no matter what else we change.

And when the generation of teacher now 50+ retires and must be repalced, the problem is going to get a LOT worse.

114 posted on 12/29/2007 6:24:14 PM PST by M. Dodge Thomas (Opinion based on research by an eyewear firm, which surveyed 100 members of a speed dating club.)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
But the truth is we need to pay people like her a lot better, or they are not going to stay around no matter what else we change.

Margaret Thatcher's government favored higher salaries for government employees for this very reason.


138 posted on 12/29/2007 7:40:22 PM PST by cornelis
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
teachers start out relatively low....no lower than new social workers or accountants or librarians...but their pay goes up fairly quickly....and the time off...its worth many thousands of dollars...the benefits..the retirement..and after a short 2 yrs or so, many have tenure and can't be fired....

what do education majors expect?....to be paid like they are nuclear engineers?...rock stars?...

160 posted on 12/29/2007 8:36:22 PM PST by cherry
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

A starting salary of $32k is nothing to sneeze at - many in other fields make far less. If you look at teacher salaries/benefits 5-8 years down the road, they are comparable to the top of many professional career paths of someone with the same #years.

Teachers need to stop complaining.


297 posted on 01/01/2008 9:23:39 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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