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3/11: The Empire Strikes Back
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| 17 December 2007
| Joan Valls (transl. & cmmts. J Aguilar)
Posted on 12/29/2007 10:22:08 AM PST by J Aguilar
Operation Noirot,
by Joan Valls
The fall of the Wall shifted the polarization from the West and the USSR to a confrontation between the United States and France. The 1990s and new millennium would bring times of fight and less visible speeches, this time between a hard Atlantic axis and a francophony in decay. Neutralized the red danger, the speech moved quickly towards the confrontation with the Islamic extremism; which, in many occasions, was used for the hot war that Washington and Paris fought in different places around the planet.
To separate from France has been always a painful task. Once you become a French colony, with the disaster that it entails, your later desire of affirmation demands much blood and, probably, a new and tougher partner. Spain has not been the only one harmed by the governments of the ominous Giscard and Mitterrand, indifferent, to say it in a soft way, to the ETA's safe haven [in southern France]. Rwanda, with a million murders in the 1990s, owes a part of the conception of its genocide to the deceased French Socialist leader. Once perpetrated the failure on a global scale of the Chiracs regime, Sarkozy only arrives to make up the pride of the defeated metropolis and ingratiate itself with Washington, waiting for the crumbs and of the preservation of the French reserves, known as francophony. However, the panorama in the Congo is frightful, and Belgium is nearing the partition. It is to see if Spain enters in the agreement or obtains its definitive independence in March 2008 [when National Elections will be held].
It is well known the tragic relation of Hutus and Tutsis throughout almost eight centuries. The tensions took an apocalyptic look beginning in the 1960s. One decade later, about 400,000 Hutus were assassinated in the Burundis neighbour, thus having planted the new seeds of resentment in a field already fertilized by too many insults. The Hutus were always the poor agriculturists, as opposed to the elite farmers, the Tutsis, favoured by the Belgian administration, which did not doubt in playing the ethnic card to control both communities. In April 1994, the Hutu president Habyarimana dies in an attack and begins the genocide of Tutsis at the hands of Hutus armed and perfectly organized even in the most remote village. More than 800,000 Tutsies are assassinated in a few months, before the indifference of UNAMIR, the mission of United Nations, and the European powers with strong interests in the zone. The genocide had been planned up to the slightest detail by the Hutus elites, even in ministry cabinets, which breaks the image of a tribal and spontaneous madness that has been wanted to offer to the international community.
The luck of the Rwandese Tutsis already was thrown, however, four years before the murder of president Habyarimana. The Operation Turquoise, in charge of France, has been in the eye of many westerners as the one that pacified Rwanda in 1994, before the Tutsis retook the power with their powerful RPF. Nevertheless, four years before, the excellent relations of Mitterrand and Habyarimana had started up the Operation Noirot, that would facilitate the military training of the Hutus on the part of French officials as previous step to the definitive design of the genocide promoted by the Rwandese government. A geo-strategic Operation Noirot for the sake of francophony and its implications, in front of an English-speaking Uganda, pro-Tutsi and financed by the United States.
The fall of the regime of Saddam Hussein would have to be interpreted in similar way. A fight of the United States to move the influence that the gangster regime of Chirac had consolidated in the zone with the helping hand of Russians and the Chinese thirsty of cheap petroleum, in exchange of vetoes at the corrupt Koffi Annans United Nations (procedure that the Asian giant has also followed in Sudan). For any restless person, but, mainly, for the Spaniards, by our condition of French colony, it is essential to know the performances inside and outside the borders of which, probably, is one of the most aggressive and lacking-of-scruples states in the recent history of the world. Jose Maria Aznar was always a patriot and, for that reason, in an exercise of affirmation, he removed to Spain from the French-German dunghill and placed it in the Atlantic axis. Soon, the blood came on 3/11. Perhaps those that were demonstrating against the invasion of Iraq, unconsciously, intuited the price that we were going to pay in deserts not so distant, which are ours.
Freedom, equality, brotherhood, Operation Noirot.
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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 11march; france; spain; terrorism
By J Aguilar,
It is interesting to see, -or better said, to not see- how the most obvious consequence of 3/11 is not discussed in foreign media: how Spain, through a terrible massacre in which preparation ETA participated -and whose mastermind is still unidentified- swap its post as a partner in the Atlantic axis to a colony of the French Empire, and why the return of the Spanish troops from Iraq was so precipitated.
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posted on
12/29/2007 10:22:09 AM PST
by
J Aguilar
To: JerseyHighlander; Incorrigible; Tolik; GladesGuru; marron; .cnI redruM; livius; billorites; Wiz; ...
An insight on geo-politics behind 3/11.
You were lucky of not being a French colony!
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posted on
12/29/2007 10:24:24 AM PST
by
J Aguilar
(Veritas vos liberabit)
To: J Aguilar
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posted on
12/29/2007 10:35:34 AM PST
by
XR7
To: J Aguilar
Good read. Pity the Americans will never read it.
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posted on
12/29/2007 10:43:44 AM PST
by
Old Sarge
(This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
To: J Aguilar
Good read. Pity the Americans will never read it.
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posted on
12/29/2007 10:43:44 AM PST
by
Old Sarge
(This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
To: J Aguilar
Spain...a “colony” of the “French Empire” ? To “eventually gain its independence” in 2008 ?
Funny the article says nothing of the Franco-Spanish agreement to let Spain’s GAL operate in France against the ETA, or of the cooperation between the police forces of both countries that has begun in the mid-1980s and continues to this day (the French police in my hometown has raided a ETA safehouse no longer than two weeks ago, for example).
To: J Aguilar
Wow! Really pins the devil to the floor.
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posted on
12/29/2007 12:33:09 PM PST
by
tanuki
(u)
To: J Aguilar
Spanish colonized territories don’t suffer as much as the France settled ones, but they are still generally wrecks. Even thoguh we kicked King George out, thank God we were originally an English colony.
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posted on
12/29/2007 10:47:55 PM PST
by
piytar
To: Atlantic Friend
The GAL was a state terror group created by the Socialist government in order to attack ETA's members in France, since the French government did nothing to stop them. It was disbanded in the late 1980's and its members, even a former Interior Minister, judged and jailed.
Twenty years later, France has not stop ETA's operations in its soil yet.
Because ETA is the way used by the French
synarchists to interfere in Spanish issues.
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posted on
12/30/2007 9:26:49 AM PST
by
J Aguilar
(Veritas vos liberabit)
To: J Aguilar
“The GAL was a state terror group created by the Socialist government in order to attack ETA’s members in France, since the French government did nothing to stop them.”
I think there have been enough arrests made on French soil by French police, and extraditions of ETA terrorists to Spain to disprove that claim, but hey, feel free to believe what suits your agenda best. It’s like the ETA safehouse raided two weeks ago in my hometown, let’s say it never happened if it makes you any happier.
“Twenty years later, France has not stop ETA’s operations in its soil yet.”
Neither has Spain on Spanish territory - not even under Jose Aznar’s Prime Ministership. And it’s not because of complex conspiracy, but because terrorist movements tend to re-grow heads like a hydra.
“Because ETA is the way used by the French synarchists to interfere in Spanish issues.”
Good grief. Spain is now a colony of the evil French Synarchist Empire... What can I say ? Again, believe what suits you best.
But since we are at it : what is the logical connexion between the claim Spain is a colony of France and the bizarre rant about Rwanda and Mitterrand ? Mitterrand played games in Rwanda, ergo Sarkozy wants Spain to be a French colony by treacherously being friendly to the US, which is exactly what Jose Aznar did ?
I had a little trouble understanding what the article was all about : it started as some attempt at exposing France’s cocvert action in Africa, and then bam, it jumps from there to Spain being a colony.
Care to shed some light ?
To: Atlantic Friend
I think there have been enough arrests made on French soil by French police, and extraditions of ETA terrorists to Spain to disprove that claim, but hey, feel free to believe what suits your agenda best. Its like the ETA safehouse raided two weeks ago in my hometown, lets say it never happened if it makes you any happier.
No, it's been happening since 1986, and yet France has not arrested all of them, why?
Neither has Spain on Spanish territory - not even under Jose Aznars Prime Ministership. And its not because of complex conspiracy, but because terrorist movements tend to re-grow heads like a hydra.
No, all main terrorist movements in Europe are over but ETA, based in its safe haven of southern France. Why?
Good grief. Spain is now a colony of the evil French Synarchist Empire... What can I say ? Again, believe what suits you best.
The truth. And I believe what evidence says: Aznar put Spain in the Atlantic axis -> 200 assassinated to kick him out of office. There is no chance in crime.
But since we are at it : what is the logical connexion between the claim Spain is a colony of France and the bizarre rant about Rwanda and Mitterrand ? Mitterrand played games in Rwanda
Well, interesting how it is expressed in France a genocide, I suppose ETA crosses the border "plays games" in Spain...
I had a little trouble understanding what the article was all about : it started as some attempt at exposing Frances cocvert action in Africa, and then bam, it jumps from there to Spain being a colony.
Well, maybe you need to compare Aznar's foreign policy and Zapatero's foreign policy.
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posted on
12/31/2007 1:51:14 AM PST
by
J Aguilar
(Veritas vos liberabit)
To: J Aguilar
No, it's been happening since 1986, and yet France has not arrested all of them, why?
Jeez, I don't know...Oh wait, yes I do : it's probably because terrorists don't wait up in line for the French police to pick them up.
It's exactly as if I was reasoining this way : it is beyçnd doubt that there are ETA terror cells in Spain. Whay hasn't the Spanish police arrested them all already, after all these decades of ETA activity ? Are they in cahoots ? Is the Spanish government involved ? Oh noes !
No, all main terrorist movements in Europe are over but ETA, based in its safe haven of southern France. Why?
See above. And if I was an ETA terrorist as you portray them, I'd complain to the French government about this "safe haven" I was supposed to have, because, well, lokk at that : sympathizers arrested, safehouses raided, weapons seized, ETA members extradited to Spain or jailed in France... Wow, talk about "safe haven" !
The truth. And I believe what evidence says: Aznar put Spain in the Atlantic axis -> 200 assassinated to kick him out of office. There is no chance in crime.
The truth needs to be better supported by evidence, in my very humble opinion. So, the fact the ETA wanted Aznar out of office and resorted to its usual terror tactics proves that Spain is a French colony ? Don't you feel there are A LOT of pieces missing in your reasoning ?
Well, interesting how it is expressed in France a genocide, I suppose ETA crosses the border "plays games" in Spain...
The ETA is committing genocide on French orders in Spain now ?
Well, maybe you need to compare Aznar's foreign policy and Zapatero's foreign policy.
No, what I need and ask is how do we go from "In Rwanda France supported the Hutus who committed a genocide" to "France's new president Sarkozy goes to Washington so Spain can remain a French colony".
It's a bit as if I was saying "Francisco Franco struck a deal with Peron's Argentina in the 1950s, and thus it proves PM Aznar wanted Portugal to remain a Spanish colony".
To: Atlantic Friend
Whay hasn't the Spanish police arrested them all already, after all these decades of ETA activity ? Are they in cahoots ? Is the Spanish government involved ? Oh noes !
Spain has arrested all cells in Spain several times. However, they kept training in and coming from France.
It is obvious for a rational being, that if ETA is based in France it is because there is safer. And why that happens? Is the French police worse than the Spanish? I don't think so, although it seems you do.
Wow, talk about "safe haven" !
Why is ETA based in France instead of Spain?
The truth needs to be better supported by evidence, in my very humble opinion. So, the fact the ETA wanted Aznar out of office and resorted to its usual terror tactics proves that Spain is a French colony ?
It wasn't ETA... who did it? Who carried out such false flag operation?
Don't you feel there are A LOT of pieces missing in your reasoning ?
Do you know who invented false flag operations? A frenchman named Yves Guerin-Serac, linked to the Piazza Fontana bombing, December 12th, 1969 in Milano, another colony, I guess.
According to Salvini [Milano's prosecutor], the real "mind" behind the attacks was Guerin Serac, a former OAS member who was running the Aginter Press, a center of logistical support to neo-fascist groups throughout Europe. It was Serac who had developed the strategy of "creating false groups of the extreme left, and infiltrating existing ones, in order to place on them the responsibility for terrorist actions, provoking the intervention of the Armed Forces and excluding the Communist Party from any significant influence on Italian political life."
Oh!!! you know! the same tactic! What a coincidence, isn't it? The idea of Guerin-Serac now applied to Aznar!
And by the way, it is proved the fact that surprisingly to all his European counterparts, Chirac did not negotiate the so-called European constitution in December 2003 ("Who Killed The Constitution?" - Published by The Economist). What was he waiting for? A coup in Spain?
No, what I need and ask is how do we go from "In Rwanda France supported the Hutus who committed a genocide" to "France's new president Sarkozy goes to Washington so Spain can remain a French colony".
Ask Jacques Soustelle, the mastermind behind the French neocolonial empire and acquaintance of Yves Guerin-Serac.
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posted on
01/16/2008 12:34:59 PM PST
by
J Aguilar
(Veritas vos liberabit)
To: J Aguilar
Seriously, you deliver little in terms of logic or facts.
- ETA cells exist in France, Spain (and other countries) - and the police forces of BOTH nations are doing their job, which is to arrest them. Case in point, the safehouse raided last month in Poitiers.
- False flag operations have NOT been invented in 1969. Try to read about intel operations during both world wars.
- Italy and Spain are NOT French colonies ; and hint, it is NOT a vast Masonic conspiracy either.
- you still haven’t provided anything to explain how one goes from “oh, look, France is helping genocide in Rwanda” to “oh, look, Spain is a French colony”.
To: Atlantic Friend
Well, let's deliver so "logic":
- ETA cells exist in France, Spain (and other countries) - and the police forces of BOTH nations are doing their job, which is to arrest them. Case in point, the safehouse raided last month in Poitiers.
FACTS: ETA infrastructure is based in France. ETA military leaders live in France. ETA resupplies in France.
LOGIC CONCLUSION: It is easier for ETA to do those things in France than in Spain.
FACT: Case in point, the safehouse raided last month in Poitiers.
LOGIC CONCLUSION: ETA receives support at a higher level: whilst the Police chase them, the secret services protect them.
- False flag operations have NOT been invented in 1969. Try to read about intel operations during both world wars.
FACTS: False flag operations and/or the Strategy of Tension have been applied since the mid 1960's in both Italy and Spain. In both cases, the terrorists can be traced to France.
LOGIC CONCLUSION: Something happens in France that favours such operations.
- Italy and Spain are NOT French colonies ; and hint, it is NOT a vast Masonic conspiracy either.
FACTS: On colonies:
When the Spanish foreign policy has diverted from the French, the Spanish government responsible for it has been overthrown by a false flag operation resembling the ones that happpened in Italy.
Both Italy and Spain import electricity from France because their governments do not develop nuclear energy or technology.
On masons:
It was proved that the false flag operations in Italy were linked with the freemasonic lodge P2, which was named "a conspiracy" by the Italian parliament commission of investigation.
There were meetings of Spanish masons in France before Franco death, meetings organized by their French counterparts.
The European Constitution was created by Guiscard d'Estaign, a mason, that did not bother to hide its laicist character.
Masons in the French "Haute Banque" (banking system) contributed to France's rapid defeat in 1940, as it is proved in the book by Annie Lacroiz-Riz:
Le choix de la défaite : Les élites françaises dans les années 1930, Armand Collin, 2006. ISBN 978-2200267841
BTW, those Fascist after the second world war gave support to the Italian oligarchy that had contributed to Mussolini regime, Italian oligarchy coordinated, again, through the freemasonic lodge P2, responsible for the development of the Strategy of Tension in Italy.
LOGIC CONCLUSION: The French, Italian and Spanish synarchists -masons connected to the banks, military and oligarchies- are have contacts and are coordinated in developing an international policy that fits their interests, using violence if necesary.
- you still havent provided anything to explain how one goes from oh, look, France is helping genocide in Rwanda to oh, look, Spain is a French colony.
FACTS: Aznar opposed the masonic European Constitution in December 2003. Spain suffered a false flag operation in March 2004. The new Spanish government approved the masonic European Constitution in May 2004.
Look, Atlantic infiltrate, it is a lack of respect to think that everyone else is stupid. Even "Africans" like me.
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posted on
01/26/2008 2:14:29 AM PST
by
J Aguilar
(Veritas vos liberabit)
To: Atlantic Friend
BTW, congratulations for the French Synarchists and the Haute Banque in General! You have done it again!
Five Billion Euro, that sets a new record!
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posted on
01/26/2008 2:34:41 AM PST
by
J Aguilar
(Veritas vos liberabit)
To: Lukasz
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posted on
01/26/2008 2:38:39 AM PST
by
J Aguilar
(Veritas vos liberabit)
To: J Aguilar
hmmm... I’m worried about Aznar, I remember that he did some good things for Spain being PM. However I read recently that he wrote a book where he advice to South America “the EU model”. I think that switching from “Latin” socialism to euro-socialism wont help them too much...
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posted on
01/29/2008 3:57:00 AM PST
by
Lukasz
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