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To: tantiboh
Anything the eyes could see or the ears could hear pales in comparison to that testimony of the Holy Spirit. It’s the same as you feel when you read the Bible and know it’s true. That same confirmation is available to discern all truth - if we’re open to receiving and following it.

So if somebody says the Holy Spirit told him LDS is the church of Satan then he should believe that and you can't dispute what he says.

It's kind of absurd that they publish these answers - several of which are clearly flawed - to some of the logical, factual and biblical questions people have raised about Mormonism, and your response boils down to "The Holy Spirit told me it's true, it doesn't matter what we can see or hear". So why even bother to publish these answers? The Bible, logic and facts don't matter anyway.

It has been the belief of most Christian theologians that Christianity is not based on blind faith but that our God given reasoning ability is part of the foundation of our faith. It's from that reasoning that we can deduce that the Bible is supernatural in origin, for example. The entire foundation of the Christian faith is based on something people SAW - the resurrected Jesus. Paul in his letter to the Corinthians wanted them to know that there were eyewitnesses who could attest to the resurrection:

For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

452 posted on 12/30/2007 12:19:59 PM PST by lasereye
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To: lasereye

~”So if somebody says the Holy Spirit told him LDS is the church of Satan then he should believe that...”~

Sure. But the Holy Spirit tells the truth, so that person will not be told that. If such a person were to ask me, I would counsel them to work on their discernment skills.

~”It’s kind of absurd that they publish these answers...”~

I agree, some of the answers are incomplete, silly, or logically flawed. But, it’s not an official Church publication, either. FAIR is associated with the Church, but is still an independent organization. It does not speak for the LDS Church.

As for why they bothered to publish the answers, you’ll have to ask them.

~”It has been the belief of most Christian theologians that Christianity is not based on blind faith but that our God given reasoning ability is part of the foundation of our faith.”~

The LDS Church embraces the same principles.

~”The entire foundation of the Christian faith is based on something people SAW - the resurrected Jesus.”~

That’s not entirely true. Some of it was seen; but God generally shows us the miracles or gives us the knowledge -after- we have exercised faith. In other words, we see after we believe. God uses unseen methods as well, though. Peter, for example, knew that Jesus was the Christ not because man had told him, but because God the Father had revealed it to him - he had knowledge from an unseen source. Many similar examples can be found in the Bible.

It’s funny that you mention Corinthians. I came across a passage that struck me today as we were studying the Bible in church:

9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
-1 Corinthians 2:9-14

In the LDS Church, we embrace this. We seek to be instructed by the Holy Ghost. And the Holy Ghost is an excellent teacher to the willing pupil.

I do not use hyperbole when I say that it is among the greatest tragedies of our age that man has so roundly rejected the personal instruction of the Holy Ghost - even those who strive their whole lives to be religious. They trust in the arm of flesh to teach them rather than in the wisdom of God.


493 posted on 12/30/2007 5:38:10 PM PST by tantiboh
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