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ANSWERS TO 50 ANTI-MORMON QUESTIONS (LDS SITE FAIR)
FAIR (Foundation for Apologetics Information & Research) ^ | modified December 22, 2007 | FAIR Staff

Posted on 12/29/2007 8:34:35 AM PST by greyfoxx39

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To: Dan(9698); Elsie
Elsie has repeatedly said that her beliefs are those espoused by the Pagan Lawyer Tertulian from about 150AD.

Oh I forgot : )

961 posted on 01/04/2008 5:30:25 AM PST by LeGrande
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To: tantiboh
I think God is more concerned with preaching the Gospel than with perfect punctuation.

Joseph Smith and your Organization sure worry about it!

962 posted on 01/04/2008 5:30:41 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LeGrande
How does it feel?

It feels GOOD!!

It is a confirmation of prophecy!!

963 posted on 01/04/2008 5:33:37 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LeGrande
You and your little cabal have been telling Mormons what they believe.

Elgee; you are wrong AGAIN!!

We SHOW what the LDS Organization has PRINTED, by their OWN printing presses!!

THEIR words are the ones that SAY what THEY believe; not ours!

964 posted on 01/04/2008 5:35:12 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Gee Elsie, did you just get here? God told Joseph Smith to change it. All changes are by revelation.

That revelation deal cures a lot of theological ills. How would you like to be their auditor?

“Uhh...you bought a Mercedes with company funds on the 20th. Who signed off on that?”
“Revelation. God told me to do it”


965 posted on 01/04/2008 5:36:26 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: LeGrande
Oh I forgot : )

That's easily done, considering you haven't read that anywhere.

966 posted on 01/04/2008 5:36:27 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN
Peepstones, mutterings, transcribings and the bible translated "correctly"and then we have this:

Isaiah 8 :19

And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead ?

8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

8:21 And they shall pass through it, hardly bestead and hungry: and it shall come to pass, that when they shall be hungry, they shall fret themselves, and curse their king and their God, and look upward.

8:22 And they shall look unto the earth; and behold trouble and darkness, dimness of anguish; and they shall be driven to darkness.

967 posted on 01/04/2008 5:37:15 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Elsie
Elgee; you are wrong AGAIN!!

We SHOW what the LDS Organization has PRINTED, by their OWN printing presses!!

THEIR words are the ones that SAY what THEY believe; not ours!

That isn't true and you know it. Although you personally have been relatively good about that. I have caught many if not most of your cabal members lying about Mormon beliefs and history.

Am I lying when I say that you believe in the Original sin?

968 posted on 01/04/2008 6:11:03 AM PST by LeGrande
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To: Elsie
Then, after the Church saw the Truth of it, adopted a concise group of sentences that boiled down the essential beliefs into an easily understandable Creed

I believe the Bishop of Rome was a better authority on the doctrine that Tertulian was at that time.

The Bishop if Rome rejected it as heresy. Tertulian left the Church where he wrote it and joined an off shoot.

How is it that 150 years later his heretical writing suddenly became correct?

It was adopted by Constantine because those he had convened could not agree and Tertulian's writings were such that you could read what you wanted in it.

It was adopted because it was abstract and didn't make explanations with any clarity.

For you to say they adopted a group of sentences is revisionist.

However, you certainly have the right to believe what you want. If you want to be a follower of a Pagan Lawyer you may.

I have had discussions with Lawyers concerning rulings by Judges. Their standard way of answering when confrunted with the facts is to say "Well, that is not the way I read it." and then go on and say "The way I read it...." and make it up just as the Lawyer Tertulian did.

Just because the Bishop of Rome rejected it as heresy and it was not accepted for 150 years doesn't affect your right to follow his teachings if you want.

969 posted on 01/04/2008 8:51:46 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Elsie
It's a CONCEPT!

I agree it is a concept. Just like Doe's concept of the "Mother Ship" that was following the comet.

Tertulian made up a lot of "concepts" that were adopted by Constantine to make the official Roman Empire Church.

That was the apostasy or falling away that was prophesied about in the Bible.

A bunch of Doe's followers accompanied him to the "Mother Ship" because they accepted the "concept".

970 posted on 01/04/2008 9:02:07 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Elsie
It's a CONCEPT!

I agree it is a concept. Just like Doe's concept of the "Mother Ship" that was following the comet.

Tertulian made up a lot of "concepts" that were adopted by Constantine to make the official Roman Empire Church.

That was the apostasy or falling away that was prophesied about in the Bible.

A bunch of Doe's followers accompanied him to the "Mother Ship" because they accepted the "concept".

971 posted on 01/04/2008 9:02:19 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Aw shucks, you stole my thunder in reserve ... I’ve been saving that for when some apologist tells me the use of the peep stone is as efficacious as the Urim and Thummim: “And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep ...”


972 posted on 01/04/2008 10:02:50 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Dan(9698); NYer; Coleus; narses

“That was the apostasy or falling away that was prophesied about in the Bible.” Is this your Mormon opinion, or do you have proof that this is in God’s eyes the apostasy He spoke of through the New Testament?


973 posted on 01/04/2008 10:08:44 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Dan(9698)
Just because the Bishop of Rome rejected it as heresy and it was not accepted for 150 years doesn't affect your right to follow his teachings if you want.

Just because the Everlasting Covenant thundered out of heaven concerning plural marriage; it only lasted for about 47 years. I don't care if you want to follow the 'teachings' of WW or not.


For those who follow LONG accepted Joe Smith teachings; THEY get called bad names and told they are not MORMON!

I think it shows just WHO are the hypocrits here.

974 posted on 01/04/2008 11:14:30 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

The New Testament tells us that the end will not come until there is a falling away.

The signs of the end that are also in the New Testament are all around us. Everyone can see that the time is short.

There certainly will not be time enough for a “falling away” now, so it must mean that it has already taken place.

The New Testament says that when you see these things it is like you now that Summer is close when you see the trees bud in the spring.

I believe that. If you consider it, you will too.


975 posted on 01/04/2008 2:21:33 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Dan(9698)
There certainly will not be time enough for a “falling away” now ... Um, you have a tendency to make assertions without backing them up. It would be just as easy to see the demonically inspired rise of Mormonism as 'a falling away'. You might want to consider that we are currently in a time of 'falling away' as characterized by the heinous slaughter world-wide of tens of millions of alive unborn innocent ones every year. The airwaves are filled with the filth of sexual degeneracy and violent nihilism. We are in the midst of the last days because we ARE in a falling away!
976 posted on 01/04/2008 2:28:26 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
The major change in Doctrine when Constantine established the Official empire religion and adopted the heretical doctrines of the Pagan Lawyer Tertulian would certainly be a falling away from the Doctrine taught by earlier Church leaders who had already rejected them as being heresy.
977 posted on 01/04/2008 2:41:48 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Dan(9698)

BTTT


978 posted on 01/05/2008 9:15:05 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...

Inman anniversary thread revival.


979 posted on 05/30/2010 2:51:00 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Illegal-alien immunity builds on sanctuary cities, which shield illegals from federal law)
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To: greyfoxx39

Inman thread revival salute...


980 posted on 05/30/2010 3:11:00 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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