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To: kidd
"Read this and learn something:

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2005/03/03/hockey-stick-1998-2005-rip/"

Interesting that the author did not, for example, cite this:

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/312/5773/529b

60 posted on 12/28/2007 6:15:51 PM PST by M. Dodge Thomas (Opinion based on research by an eyewear firm, which surveyed 100 members of a speed dating club.)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
Let me get this straight.

You believe that CO2 drives the climate. But, in 1998 La Nino, not CO2, was credited with causing the 2nd highest “temperature”.

Since 1998, “global temperature” have gone down or remain about the same according satellites measurements while CO2 PPM have gone up.

According to one GHG modeler

“A common view is that the current global warming rate will continue or accelerate. But we argue that rapid warming in recent decades has been driven mainly by non-CO2 greenhouse gases (GHGs), such as chlorofluorocarbons, CH4, and N2O, not by the products of fossil fuel burning, CO2 and aerosols, the positive and negative climate forcings of which are partially offsetting.”

This modeler has been working on his GHG model for over thirty years. His model has never been peer reviewed or validated.

Can you or anybody give me his name?
I’ll give a hint. The abstract was written in the year 2000

61 posted on 12/28/2007 8:28:37 PM PST by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
And I especially like this quote..

''The analogy I use is like my car's not running very well, so I'm going to ignore the engine which is the sun and I'm going to ignore the transmission which is the water vapour and I'm going to look at one nut on the right rear wheel which is the human produced CO2. The science is that bad.''-Dr Roy Spencer, former NASA senior climatologist

94 posted on 12/29/2007 8:27:33 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus Reagan
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

The paper you cite concentrates on the period from 1800-present. However it still doesn’t dispute the fact that the “hockey stick” has magically made the Medieval Warm Period disappear.

Read this article to see why it went away:
http://www.climatechangeissues.com/files/PDF/conf05mckitrick.pdf

(hint: it went away because it was inconvenient. The money quote: “A major person working in the area of climate change and global warming sent me an astonishing email that said ‘We have to get rid of the Medieval Warm Period.’”)


106 posted on 12/31/2007 7:34:00 AM PST by kidd
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