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Is Huckabee a Jimmy Carter Christian?

Posted on 12/27/2007 4:10:27 PM PST by street_lawyer

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Jimrob has said the same thing. You should read the first page of this website, where it says this is not a GOP website.

So, maybe you would feel more comfortable posting at GOP.com or somesuch place. This is a website for conservatives.

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According to Intrade, the winner of the December 12th GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938773/posts

Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts

In this poll Hunter is up 3% and even with Paul and Thompson.
http://www.wxyz.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=3481ef60-8195-46a9-af04-b87b907bcfdd


101 posted on 12/30/2007 1:44:19 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Kevmo
Kevmo:
Some may believe that we conservatives should not question a man who has a theological degree? Since when does becoming a minister make a person a conservative?

I’m offended by your suggestion that I refrain from posting my opinion on this site. I trust that no one's faith in Huckabee is threatened by some truthful facts? I like Duncan, but unfortunately he is not doing well in the race. I'd like Thompson and I wish him the best.

102 posted on 12/31/2007 6:08:51 PM PST by street_lawyer (Conservative Defender of the Faith)
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Kevmo: Some may believe that we conservatives should not question a man who has a theological degree? Since when does becoming a minister make a person a conservative?
***I’ve never said that, and never hinted at it, so it appears you’re aiming for a deflection. Read what JimRob has to say, then answer the comment aimed at you with respect to conservatism.

I’m offended by your suggestion that I refrain from posting my opinion on this site.
***And I’m offended by this post: “if you do not vote for Rudy then you are sitting in the center of the isle. Hillary should send you a thank you card for dropping out of the election.” We have a special bugzapper thread for RINOs like you:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/posts
So my suggestion that you refrain from posting was actually good advice. If you continue to post such drivel, it’s likely you’ll suffer the same fate as all those other impolite rudybots on the bugzapper thread. Read it and come up to speed before you post any more.

I trust that no one’s faith in Huckabee is threatened by some truthful facts?
***Red Herring

I like Duncan, but unfortunately he is not doing well in the race.
***Typical RINO response, like a banker who will only lend money to someone who doesn’t need it. But Hunter supporters notice that when it comes to other candidates, the first part of the sentence is usually less charitable. Hunter is becoming the consensus candidate by means of such patronizing.


103 posted on 01/01/2008 9:04:29 AM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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Kevmo: Some may believe that we conservatives should not question a man who has a theological degree? Since when does becoming a minister make a person a conservative? ***I’ve never said that, and never hinted at it, so it appears you’re aiming for a deflection. Read what JimRob has to say, then answer the comment aimed at you with respect to conservatism.

*** Ok, I guess, I'm totally lost and confused. It sounds like we are on the same page?  I did read Jim's post and I also have the same wishful thinking that a social conservative can still be elected to the Presidency. Obviously Jim has not use for "lawyers". Oh, my God! Rudy is a lawyer! I guess all lawyers are fools, dishonest, liberal, and liars? That offends me more than you do.

I’m offended by your suggestion that I refrain from posting my opinion on this site. ***And I’m offended by this post: “if you do not vote for Rudy then you are sitting in the center of the isle. Hillary should send you a thank you card for dropping out of the election.” We have a special bugzapper thread for RINOs like you:

If you think that Huckabee can get elected then you also believe that Jesus will return before Hillary completely suppresses Christian morality. I would love to see a pro-life president elected, but all he or she can do is appoint another Justice like Roberts. That would be a blessing. You are apparently offended by my stating that Huckabee is far to the right (where I am actually) and Rudy is far to the left (where I wish the votes were not) Obviously non of us even RINO's don't want Hillary, so the way I see it brother is that we have to choose between the lesser of two undesirables. You've never had to do that then you have lost some battles and this is one battal I do not want to loose.

see my post: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1947195/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/posts So my suggestion that you refrain from posting was actually good advice. If you continue to post such drivel, it’s likely you’ll suffer the same fate as all those other impolite rudybots on the bugzapper thread. Read it and come up to speed before you post any more.

Rudybots? How is that supposed to inform me of anything other than you are completely opposed to reason?

I trust that no one’s faith in Huckabee is threatened by some truthful facts? ***Red Herring I suppose you have enough knowlege of law school that you know this is a term used by first year law students. Should I assume you are one of the bad guys? ie: lawyers?

I like Duncan, but unfortunately he is not doing well in the race. ***Typical RINO response, like a banker who will only lend money to someone who doesn’t need it. But Hunter supporters notice that when it comes to other candidates, the first part of the sentence is usually less charitable. Hunter is becoming the consensus candidate by means of such patronizing.

Keep praying for our country. Election day is not Sunday school goers.

 

104 posted on 01/02/2008 11:36:16 AM PST by street_lawyer (Conservative Defender of the Faith)
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I had a response drawn out but it did not get posted and now it’s lost. So my response this time will be more simple.

Ok, I guess, I’m totally lost and confused. It sounds like we are on the same page?
***Not to me, it looks like you’re just deflecting again.

I did read Jim’s post and I also have the same wishful thinking that a social conservative can still be elected to the Presidency. Obviously Jim has not use for “lawyers”. Oh, my God! Rudy is a lawyer! I guess all lawyers are fools, dishonest, liberal, and liars? That offends me more than you do.
***Then take it up with Jim.

If you think that Huckabee can get elected then you also believe that Jesus will return before Hillary completely suppresses Christian morality.
***This statement is a pure non-sequitur. It does not make sense. More deflection.

I would love to see a pro-life president elected, but all he or she can do is appoint another Justice like Roberts.
***We saw that so much with tootyfruitybots that many of us freepers were convinced they were talking points. It’s baloney. If you can read JimRob’s definition of conservative and then print that same statement, you are not a conservative.

That would be a blessing. You are apparently offended by my stating that Huckabee is far to the right (where I am actually) and Rudy is far to the left (where I wish the votes were not)
***No, I’m offended that you suggest I’m sitting in the aisle. Most of free republic is sitting in the aisle if tootyfruityrudy is nominated.

Obviously non of us even RINO’s don’t want Hillary, so the way I see it brother is that we have to choose between the lesser of two undesirables.
***Standard tootyfruityrudy talking points. Baloney. It’s also a false dilemma, classic fallacious reasoning. You’re not much of a lawyer if you’re still using classic fallacies. Why do you acknowledge you’re a RINO?

You’ve never had to do that then you have lost some battles and this is one battal I do not want to loose.
***Justification for your false dilemma reasoning.

see my post: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1947195/posts
***Standard RINO single-issue stuff. The single issue is Hillary. But then the RINOs disregard that in a recent poll, the top 4 Republican candidates all beat the Hildebeast. Anyone can beat her. So you should be happy.

Rudybots? How is that supposed to inform me of anything other than you are completely opposed to reason?
***That’s a form of straw argumentation. We freepers saw how little reason was used by tootyfruityrudybots in the end, and it was just another piece of baloney from them.

Red Herring I suppose you have enough knowlege of law school that you know this is a term used by first year law students. Should I assume you are one of the bad guys? ie: lawyers?
***No. It’s a classic use of an arguing/debating/reasoning term. It means you’re deflecting. Noticing a pattern yet?

Keep praying for our country. Election day is not Sunday school goers.
***I agree.


105 posted on 01/02/2008 1:50:00 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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I trust that we are both against electing a democrat in the 08 election. Therefore my differences with you on political tactics should take second place to our unity against a party that champions abortion, gay marriage, separation of church and state, high taxes that will cripple our economy,  and allowing our enemies to grow strong while diminishing our military defensive capabilities.

Please allow me to restate what I meant by being in the middle if one is not for Huckabee or Rudy. I simply meant to say that Huckabee is the social conservative I wish Rudy were, and that Huckabee were as strong on defense as I believe Rudy is. The two are in my estimation polls apart. I might have used McCain as an example of a RINO, but I doubt he has a snowball's chance in hell of being the candidate in 08. I did not mean to insult you or anyone else by intimating that he or she is a lukewarm republican.

If I believed that Huckabee would actually defend the country from radical Islam as he suggests on his website, he'd have my vote, despite the evidence that he is not a fiscal conservative. (To be sure if he is our candidate I will work hard for his ultimate victory, but I am skeptical of his chances of victory. And since the international media seems to like him more than Rudy, I suspect they agree with me that Rudy would make a more formidable candidate.)

I would like to mention that those who believe we send a message by voting for someone like Huckabee or Alan Keyes are putting the cart before the horse. In my opinion we first have to alter public opinion about abortion and gay marriage, then it will be possible to elect a social conservative once again. I consider President Bush to be the type of president who we need on social, and moral issues. On fiscal matters, immigration, and communication skills, he was not my favorite. He kept his word to me when he appointed Chief Justice Roberts, and Justice Alito, which was the main reason I voted for him. My judgment of Rudy is that he is more electable than Huckabee, and despite my religious convictions being more akin to those expressed by Huckabee, my belief is that Rudy will appoint conservative justices if he has the opportunity to do so. Huckabee's history of pardoning criminals shows he is merciful, but will he hold Muslims accountable for their transgressions, or will he be merciful?

I'd like to know your position on these issues:

1. Are homosexuals born that way or is it a learned behavior? 2.  Is Islam a religion of peace and love? 3. What is wrong with capitalism?

 

 

106 posted on 01/03/2008 1:49:27 PM PST by street_lawyer (Conservative Defender of the Faith)
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I might have used McCain as an example of a RINO, but I doubt he has a snowball’s chance in hell of being the candidate in 08.
***Then you could make a bunch of money if you short McCain at Intrade and you’re right.

McCain now leads for nomination on INTRADE PREDICTION MARKETS
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1947615/posts

My judgment of Rudy is that he is more electable than Huckabee,
***Then your judgement is off. Rudy splits the GOP socon base, Huckster doesn’t. With Rudy, guys like JimRob will be going 3rd party. With Huckster, they’ll just be mad.

and despite my religious convictions being more akin to those expressed by Huckabee, my belief is that Rudy will appoint conservative justices if he has the opportunity to do so.
***If you honestly believe that rudy would go against his own convictions on the most important choices he has as president, then you are deluded.

Huckabee’s history of pardoning criminals shows he is merciful, but will he hold Muslims accountable for their transgressions, or will he be merciful?
***Probably both, like the average flipflopper.

I’d like to know your position on these issues:
***Why?

1. Are homosexuals born that way or is it a learned behavior?
***It’s probably a combination of both.

2. Is Islam a religion of peace and love?
***No. Just look at its founder.

3. What is wrong with capitalism?
***Plenty, but it’s the best system we’ve got.

Basically, it’s a wide open race, with the lead changing on a weekly basis. Might as well support the truest conservative, Hunter.

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The Efficacy Of Prediction Markets The Liberty Papers ^ |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1922961/posts

According to Intrade, the winner of the December 12th GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938773/posts

Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts


107 posted on 01/03/2008 2:15:06 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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wow, Ok your a guy who can’t loose an argument. That’s probably a good thing and very burdensome. I’m not that way about intellectual discussions only my court cases. Perhaps you are brighter than I am, dispite my large ego and outstanding academic credentials, which don’t mean that I’m smart, just a hard worker, and in case you haven’t notice, even an eight grader can spell better than I can.

The reason I asked the questions I did is becasue of my trial experience in sizing up an individual.
I’ll check out your links, thanks. I don’t know who is going to win the nomination, but I’m ok with any one of them with the exception of Dr. Paul. But I’ll hold my nose and vote for him if he is our candidate.


108 posted on 01/03/2008 2:29:59 PM PST by street_lawyer (Conservative Defender of the Faith)
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To: street_lawyer

I shouda gone into law ;-)


109 posted on 01/03/2008 2:49:51 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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