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Be Prepared, Scouts, For the PC Patrol
Town Hall ^ | December 27, 2007 | Rebecca Hagelin

Posted on 12/27/2007 1:12:20 PM PST by AFA-Michigan

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To: lady lawyer; RonF; AppauledAtAppeasementConservat; Looking for Diogenes; Congressman Billybob; ...

Now here’s a question to ask all the candidates; “Do you Support the Scouts and will you as President Order the Immediate Halt to the Attacks on the Scouts?”


41 posted on 12/27/2007 3:23:10 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

There’s no way the president could issue such an order. He doesn’t have the power.


42 posted on 12/27/2007 3:24:23 PM PST by lady lawyer
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To: lady lawyer

True but it sure would be fun to see them sweat trying to equivocate around the answer.


43 posted on 12/27/2007 3:27:15 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: taxcontrol
"So, if the BSA were the original owners of the building, and give it to the city for an agreed $1 in rent and the city now wishes to no longer honor the agreement .... doesn’t the city now have to return the building to the BSA?"

The cost, if Philly wants to break their oral or whatever contract with the BSA should be for the entire value of the building plus interest for 100 years. Make the cost of evicting the scouts so prohibitive they have to choose whether they would bankrupt the city to appease a group of men who for some reason long to sleep in tents with little boys.

44 posted on 12/27/2007 4:05:32 PM PST by boop
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To: muawiyah
The LDS policy has resulted in up to 30% of all Boy Scout members today being members of the LDS church.

The actual number is somewhere between 12% and 13%, matched by the Lutherans and closely followed at ~10% by the Roman Catholic Church.

45 posted on 12/27/2007 4:54:24 PM PST by RonF
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To: muawiyah
The LDS church supports the BSA as the core youth program for young men. Each ward sponsors a troop....sometimes leading to a smaller than optimum troop size, but guaranteed of a safe place to meet, good adult supervision and appropriate monetary support. The LDS supported BSA troops produce lots of Eagle scouts.

So, what does the President of LDS say about the question of turning the homosexual activists loose on the little boys?

The LDS scout leaders are called by the Bishop of the corresponding ward, but also have to meet all the screening standards of the BSA. That "double filter" is accentuated by the scout leaders also being active members of the ward. They are visible at all times to the members of the ward. It would be pretty damn difficult for a homosexual to ever be appointed to that position.

46 posted on 12/27/2007 5:33:37 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: lady lawyer
According to its charter, it exists to “promote … the ability of boys to do things for themselves and others … and to teach them patriotism, courage, self-reliance and kindred virtues.”

Which is the main reason the liberals hate it so. Not the homosexual thing which is just an excuse, just as it is in their anti ROTC pogroms on our campuses.

47 posted on 12/27/2007 5:33:43 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Tax-chick
Yeah, I wish he hadn't ordered the Baptist battalions into Isolamabad today too.

Doggone it, with that guy it's always something isn't it.

48 posted on 12/27/2007 5:45:50 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: JohnnyZ

If he’s a member of LDS he really doesn’t have a choice does he.


49 posted on 12/27/2007 5:46:50 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: RonF
My middle son started in the LDS scout program, but the troop was simply too small. There was no depth of age or experience within the scouts. He moved to a Roman Catholic supported troop whose scoutmaster was someone I knew personally at the phone company.

It was a very large troop. Almost 100 scouts. The parents were extremely active in fund raising. The troop's taste for exotic and expensive outings necessitated a grueling schedule of fund raising. It was never enough. As parents, we were regularly asked to cough up almost another $100 per month toward the activities.

My son zipped though Tenderfoot, 2nd Class and 1st class before the first court of honor was held. At that point the scoutmaster suggested that he "slow down" so he could "mature". Big mistake. He turned the scouts off like a spigot and redirected all his energy to the high school band and academics. Sitting 1st seat in the trumpet section, achieving "5" on all AP classes and finishing with a 4.33 GPA was a satisfactory substitution.

I prefer a troop with depth of experience and age among the scouts. That helps build leadership and mentoring skills in the older scouts as they advance in rank. Trying to accomplish the same objective with extra adult leaders deprives the scouts of that leadership experience. Having a troop that is too small has the same effect.

The troop where I earned my Eagle scout rank had 7 patrols with 8 members each. Ages ranged form 11 to 18. Ranks from Tenderfoot to Eagle. It had good balance. The PTA sponsorship simply meant we could meet in the cafeteria for meeting and I was permitted to schedule some Saturday afternoon movies with a nominal admission fee to permit some fund raising. I rented the 16mm movies and handled the projector. The income was a little better than running a car wash or collecting newspapers. We avoided door to door sales like the plague.

50 posted on 12/27/2007 5:48:03 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Bob
Since everybody, including each and every Presidential Candidate suffers from hoof and mouth disease (and slips of the tongue ~ intentional or otherwise) I determine what they are telling me is their policy by reading their documents and prepared speeches.

I think that's pretty clear ~ so don't come running to me saying "Hey, Thompson said Poo Poo in public so he's infantile" ~ I want you to show me where he WROTE that in a public policy statement of some kind first.

51 posted on 12/27/2007 5:50:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: RonF
The actual number is somewhere between 12% and 13%, matched by the Lutherans and closely followed at ~10% by the Roman Catholic Church.

That still means that the Mormons are vastly over represented in the Scouts, since according to the CIA, they are only 2% of the population. Catholics, at 24% of the population are much underrepresented. Lutherns, (from another source) are about 5% of the population, so they too are overrepresented, but not as much so as the Mormons.

52 posted on 12/27/2007 5:56:13 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: muawiyah
If he’s a member of LDS he really doesn’t have a choice does he.

Mitt? Sure, he goes against LDS teaching plenty.

53 posted on 12/27/2007 6:09:14 PM PST by JohnnyZ ("When we say I saw the PATRIOTS win the WORLD SERIES, it doesn't necessarily mean ...." - Mitt)
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To: muawiyah
I want you to show me where he WROTE that in a public policy statement of some kind first.

Yeah, sure. I'll get right on that.

54 posted on 12/27/2007 6:16:42 PM PST by Bob
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To: big'ol_freeper
Using your logic, you would not hold my belief against me if I were running for president. Lame.

I am not sure what you are attempting to articulate with that. However, what's lame is posting an article that has nothing to do with Romney, attaching his name to the title, and going off on a rant.

It's important not to skip your medication you know.

55 posted on 12/27/2007 6:16:51 PM PST by outofstyle (My Ride's Here)
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To: outofstyle
Thank you for the personal attack. No thread about Mitt-flop would be complete without the favorite tactic of Mitt-flop supporters. Can't win the argument so just disparage anyone who disagrees with you. I'd love to see the campaign literature provided by Mitt that directs implementation of the tactic.




U.S. Army Retired


56 posted on 12/27/2007 6:23:37 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (Mitt to supporters: "DON'T TRY TO DEFEND MY LIBERAL RECORD. BELITTLE THEM WITH PERSONAL ATTACKS")
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To: big'ol_freeper
Sorry. When I re read your post. I see that you may only have been characterizing my "comments" as lame and not simply heaving insults. Your comments regarding the tone of postings here is interesting. I have observed the most intense vitriol being exhibited by the Romney haters.

By the way, I would love nothing more than to have a President Thompson or President Hunter. I simply believe they would not be strong enough as candidates to defeat Hillary or Obama. With an aging Supreme Court and the nation "at war," we must not allow 8 years of Clinton in the White House..

57 posted on 12/27/2007 6:39:06 PM PST by outofstyle (My Ride's Here)
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To: lady lawyer

This article has a link that takes you to Mitt’s actual words on YouTube:

http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/200024.aspx


58 posted on 12/27/2007 6:47:50 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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Why is there a Homosexual agenda towards the BSA on a Conservative message board?
Or maybe, why are people defending this sick and perverted FREEKING agenda!
59 posted on 12/27/2007 6:56:08 PM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: lady lawyer

INTREP


60 posted on 12/27/2007 9:01:55 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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