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Tide of illegal immigrants ebbs
Los Angeles Times ^ | December 27, 2007 | Marla Dickerson

Posted on 12/27/2007 3:27:43 AM PST by NCDragon

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To: NCDragon

For years I’ve known that the only way to deal with the illegal problem was to take action against employers who hire illegals, action against folks who rent to illegals or in any way help known illegals.
The new Arizona law seems to be doing the trick. Time to enforce our laws and kick ALL illegals out of our country.


21 posted on 12/27/2007 5:59:59 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: NCDragon

How many articles have i seen on this topic in the last few days? 4 or 5. So, all of a sudden the media noticed the day before yesterday that the flow of illegals into our country has ebbed and/or so many of them are going back to Mexico?? Come on, this is the media trying to convince us that we don’t have this problem anymore. Thus, it’s not issue that presidential candidates need talk about much.


22 posted on 12/27/2007 6:03:29 AM PST by uncitizen
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To: NCDragon

OK guys, just move along. Nothing to see here.

Just forget about the 20 million already here.

Go back to sleep. Everything is fine.

Liberalism + MSM = filth. It always adds up to the same thing.


23 posted on 12/27/2007 6:15:21 AM PST by Carbonado
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To: NCDragon

OK guys, just move along. Nothing to see here.

Just forget about the 20 million already here.

Go back to sleep. Everything is fine.

Liberalism + MSM = filth. It always adds up to the same thing.


24 posted on 12/27/2007 6:15:34 AM PST by Carbonado
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To: NCDragon
What's behind the apparent decline?

They're all here.

25 posted on 12/27/2007 6:15:58 AM PST by Teacher317 (Eta kuram na smekh)
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To: NCDragon

So when is Martinez going home?


26 posted on 12/27/2007 6:19:01 AM PST by kalee
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To: NCDragon
The downturn in the influx in the New York/New Jersey area became noticeable about three years ago. It seemed that the Mexicans/Guatemalans who started coming here in large numbers since the early 90s stopped coming is as large numbers.

Don't talk to many Mexicans/Guatemalans in the area, but the Ecuadorians and Brazilians I know of are leaving due to the decline in the dollar exchange rate. That and the fact that Italy and Spain have a reputation for being "welcoming" to Latin American immigrants (which is understandable considering the alternative).

27 posted on 12/27/2007 6:19:01 AM PST by Clemenza (I NO Heart Huckabee)
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To: Clemenza
I would rather vote for a Democrat than that....more government involvment...amnesty pushing... foreign affairs ignorant...Bush bashing....high taxing....parole giving...credential lying.....preacher hick from Arkansas. That's about it (sure I missed something)

Minute Men of America
 Stand Up

 

I always thought our group stood for stopping illegal immigration.  I also thought  that we, The Minute Me, wanted a permanent security fence along our southern border.  It is now clear to me that our leaders are either asleep or have given up on our cause to save America from becoming a third world nation.


"When I am president, I will build a fence."

 

Did you know .....Fred Thompson in a speech in Iowa on the 21st. of Dec. declared  "When I am president, I will build a fence."  He went further on to say...Amnesty and illegal immigration, he said, are not healthy for the U.S. or Mexico. "We need to be a nation of high fences and wide gates."

Is this not what we want?
Where are our leaders?
Why aren't there Minute Men  TV spots endorsing  Fred Thompson?
 

If we fail we may very well have a Democrat or a liberal Republican elected, who will then push an amnesty bill through congress. 

Call your Minute Men Headquarters today and give them your opinion.

 

28 posted on 12/27/2007 6:24:24 AM PST by glmjr
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To: bcsco

Has anybody on an illegal immigration thread ever suggested that the US do what France and the UK are doing in some cases...paying the illegals to go back home?


29 posted on 12/27/2007 9:20:49 AM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: glmjr

Hopefully that endorsement will come.


30 posted on 12/27/2007 9:22:21 AM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: bcsco

Thanks for the ping. I don’t think the tide has changed, just one smaller wave than normal waves.

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31 posted on 12/27/2007 9:22:36 AM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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ping


32 posted on 12/27/2007 10:29:28 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: billybudd
The liberal media is trying to take the issue off the table for the 2008 elections.

Somebody forgot to tell the criminal illegal aliens here in Dallas. There are so many now that they were standing on street corners to be picked up for cash labor at 9:30 Christmas morning. And not just a few, I saw about 100 total in about 5 blocks on Ross Av. At 9:30 Christmas morning.

33 posted on 12/27/2007 10:45:08 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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Enforcing the law is working? Who would have thunk it!!!

Undeniably enforcement is probably having some effect. But simple arithmetic more than likely deserves the credit for the decline.

Olde México is a nation of some 100 Million people (a number that is evidently a closely guarded Mexican secret). One way or another there are already some 30 Million Mexicans here (another closely guarded secret).

Maybe it sounds stupid, but the most probable reason Mexican immigration is slowing down just might be that they are running short of Mexicans. I personally have visited villages where there seem to be mostly only old-timers and kids, with a few young mothers. Of course, the shortfall is being made up to some extent by our travelling vecinos from countries further south, but they simply haven't got the people pool that México does, or did.

Mexicans, legal and illegal, and their offspring will shortly comprise about a third of our population. "Shortly," to me means about 50 years.

34 posted on 12/27/2007 11:37:28 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Round up the Dark Horses, boys. This herd of contenders ain't makin' it.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Has anybody on an illegal immigration thread ever suggested that the US do what France and the UK are doing in some cases...paying the illegals to go back home?

Not that I'm aware of. I find it difficult to accept paying someone to rectify what was a crime to begin with. Would we be opening the door to illegal immigration for profit?

35 posted on 12/27/2007 12:54:49 PM PST by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: NCDragon

The flow of illegals needs to slow to 0, and we need to see a flow of deported illegals flow back to their so called countries!


36 posted on 12/27/2007 2:50:23 PM PST by pulaskibush (USA, founded by tolerant Christians. USSR, founded by intolerant Secularist.)
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To: wolfcreek

Caesar Chavez many decades ago, wanted to LIMIT the number of them simply because it would depress wages, and cause the exact problems they are experiencing now.


37 posted on 12/27/2007 6:07:53 PM PST by television is just wrong (deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END Welfare)
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To: wolfcreek

Caesar Chavez many decades ago, wanted to LIMIT the number of them simply because it would depress wages, and cause the exact problems they are experiencing now.


38 posted on 12/27/2007 6:07:53 PM PST by television is just wrong (deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END Welfare)
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To: NCDragon

The liberals don’t want this as a campaign issue so expect to hear lots of media assertions that the problem is magically fixing itself.


39 posted on 12/27/2007 6:11:59 PM PST by Perchant
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To: NCDragon

Amazing how simply enforcing existing laws works.


40 posted on 12/27/2007 6:15:06 PM PST by DesScorp
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