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Russian military to get new missile, tank(Bulava and T-95?)
Reuters ^ | 12/22/07 | Gleb Bryanski

Posted on 12/24/2007 10:38:37 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Russian military to get new missile, tank

Reuters - Saturday, December 22 06:06 pmMOSCOW

(Reuters) - The Russian armed forces will receive a new submarine-based intercontinental ballistic missile in 2008 and a new type of tank in 2009, local news agencies quoted a top Russian general as saying on Saturday.

ADVERTISEMENT Deputy Defence Minister Nikolai Makarov was quoted as saying the nuclear submarine Yuri Dolgoruky, equipped with the Bulava missile, will become part of the Russian navy next year.

Makarov was quoted as saying tests of the missile were almost completed and "we will get it in 2008".

The Bulava is a flagship project that President Vladimir Putin has said can pierce any anti-missile shield.

The armed forces have carried out regular missile tests in the past few years. They are viewed by the political and military leadership as evidence of a revival of Russia's military might.

Buoyed by huge oil revenues, Russia under Putin has been boosting military spending while at the same time using diplomacy to increase its influence as it seeks to counter U.S. plans for a missile defence shield in Europe.

The Bulava missile is designed for Russia's new Borei (Arctic Wind) class nuclear submarines. The first, long-delayed submarine of the class was launched last April.

Makarov said that in 2009 the army would also receive a new type of tank "with an entirely new chassis, weapons, target recognition and fire control systems." Russian ground forces are currently equipped with T-90, T-72 and T-80 tanks.

"Now we are carrying out tests, which we plan to complete next year, and in 2009 the new tank will go into production," he said.

Russia currently has two tanks in the works -- the "Black Eagle", created in the 1990s by the Omsk tank design bureau and first shown to public in 2004, and the T-95, created by Uralvagonzavod. Few details on the T-95 are publicly available.

Putin signed a law suspending Russia's participation in the Conventional Forces in Europe (CFE) Treaty in a step which could allow it to deploy more forces close to western Europe. Russia declared 5,063 tanks deployed in the European area in 2007.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bulava; russia; t95

This is alleged to be how T-95 looks like.


1 posted on 12/24/2007 10:38:41 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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2 posted on 12/24/2007 10:45:40 PM PST by Eye of Unk
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3 posted on 12/24/2007 10:47:14 PM PST by Eye of Unk
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4 posted on 12/24/2007 10:50:15 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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that brings back some memories.


5 posted on 12/24/2007 10:51:54 PM PST by bobby.223
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In that game, I like the ground-crawling Soviet anti-tank missile. Don’t know how effective it is in real battlefield, but it sure was interesting.
6 posted on 12/24/2007 10:52:07 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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GDP comparisons based on the International Monetary Fund list on List of countries by GDP (nominal) for world GDP, and the List of U.S. states by GDP (nominal) figures.

United States 13,244,550
California 1,727,355
New York 1,021,944
Russia 979,048
South Korea 888,048

Repeating myself perhaps, but the “huge oil revenues” only go so far in a kleptocracy such as modern Russia. Especially when trying to build a 21st century military.

We’ve heard all this before. Russian superweapons, superior to anything we have on land, sea, air, and space. Then to learn two and three generations later the hardware mostly was failed designs poorly constructed, maintained, and operated.

Taking Putin’s claims at face value, Russia at best can only slow the rate at which it falls behind the western military forces. Their economy is simply insufficient to the task.

Russia has bluffed the west since Lenin, and done so with spectacular success. It took Ronald Reagan to see what generations of “experts” missed. Now Reagan is gone, and they again try to play the same game.

As for the tank in the sketch, it reminds me of a French model circa 1960. Designation escapes me.


7 posted on 12/24/2007 11:04:40 PM PST by tlb
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As for the tank in the sketch, it reminds me of a French model circa 1960. Designation escapes me.

AMX-13. Armed with a 75mm gun and a very low turret.

8 posted on 12/24/2007 11:11:03 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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Actually, by pouring oil money into various political projects(showpiece military hardware cold-war style geopolitics), Russia is squandering its opportunity to grow up to the next level.

Based on the way they behave these days, they are using up their money to resurrect their imperial pride in an economically unproductive way.

People have misconception about countries such as Russia and China. Their long imperial history(Chinese has it a lot longer) will overshadow them for a long time. It is not going to miraculously disappear in a decade or two by having crash course on market economy. As Solzhenitsyn allegedly said, it could take nearly a century for Russia to become democratic.

9 posted on 12/24/2007 11:17:39 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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Best guess. Same old 125 mm gun (2A25) with thermal sleeve. Day sight and third generation image intensifier good to 2000 meters at night. Near infra-red searchlight. Three crew members (auto loader). Basic load: about 12 APFSDS-T, 28 HE (or 24 HE and 4 AT-11 type missiles).

Very difficult to defeat from front flat trajectory with shaped charge (CE) or kinetic energy (KE). Top attack will dual warhead will defeat top protection. Frontal armor probably gives about 4-500 mm against KE and 750 mm against unitary shaped charge. Side or rear engagement will kill with both KE or CE.

Configuration looks like it would be very rough on the turret instruments. Boresite might be difficult to maintain when in sustained combat. It also looks like a deathtrap if hit.

10 posted on 12/24/2007 11:31:15 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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It must be for export then! I agree, reminds me of something I saw in an electronics store or a used car lot many years ago, you know the “solid state” devices?


11 posted on 12/24/2007 11:43:31 PM PST by Eye of Unk
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Lots of flat surfaces on that turret for a shell or missile to impact and explode (instead of ricocheting). With a turret that small, they will have limited space for storing ammunition.


12 posted on 12/24/2007 11:51:22 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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New Sovietskiy T-212UM1 "Black Eagle" Main Battle Tank http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Rifts/Rifts-Pre-Rifts-Vehicles/Soviet/NS_T-212UM1_Black_Eagle_MBT.htm
13 posted on 12/24/2007 11:53:52 PM PST by Eye of Unk
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“Actually, by pouring oil money into various political projects(showpiece military hardware cold-war style geopolitics), Russia is squandering its opportunity “

aint that the truth - and man of the year? with an economy smaller than California?


14 posted on 12/25/2007 7:45:16 AM PST by spanalot (*)
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