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Traffic jam mystery solved by mathematicians (someone alert the Fed)
Physorg ^ | December 19, 2007 | University of Exeter

Posted on 12/24/2007 9:11:40 PM PST by ckilmer

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Someone needs to show the math of this to people at the fed--and they need to farm this math to mathematician/economist teams who can build this into their models. Modelling traffic as flow of a compressible fluid in a pipe was done by Honeywell Systems and Research Center (USA) in the early to mid 1970s. AFAIK, this was the first use of this paradigm; might be applicable as well to money flow models
1 posted on 12/24/2007 9:11:42 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


2 posted on 12/24/2007 9:14:09 PM PST by kalee
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“Our model shows that overreaction of a single driver can have enormous impact on the rest of the traffic, leading to massive delays.”

A better question would be: How come this twit is always in front of ME?

3 posted on 12/24/2007 9:17:24 PM PST by decal (This tagline is subject to change without noti........)
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—it is the reverse of the situation when you see the traffic light 17 vehicles ahead of you turn green but instead of the group gently starting to move, half of the group have to wait til the one in front of them gets off the cell phone and moves-—


4 posted on 12/24/2007 9:20:04 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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Isn't all that prima facie obvious? What on earth else would cause the backup besides someone harshly applying brakes near the front?
5 posted on 12/24/2007 9:20:25 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurtureā„¢)
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To: ckilmer
Clearly, braking is the cause of the problem.

FEDERAL MANDATE: REMOVE ALL BRAKES FROM AUTOMOBILES.

6 posted on 12/24/2007 9:22:36 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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A ‘backward travelling wave’ of prudence, caution, and delay on the dual carriageways, eh? ‘Tis indeed my good fortune to live so far out in the wild.


7 posted on 12/24/2007 9:22:59 PM PST by flowerplough (Thompson should be the next president and Reagan should be the next face on Mt. Rushmore)
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Their model revealed that slowing down below a critical speed when reacting to such an event, a driver would force the car behind to slow down further and the next car back to reduce its speed further still.

That is incredible, now we know.

8 posted on 12/24/2007 9:23:42 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: ckilmer

alert the media too!!!


9 posted on 12/24/2007 9:24:16 PM PST by robomatik
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To: decal

yep and I always behind you—LOL:)a


10 posted on 12/24/2007 9:24:47 PM PST by GOP Poet
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Gosh, this history major solved how traffic jams happen long ago without silly old math.
11 posted on 12/24/2007 9:25:10 PM PST by Santa Fe_Conservative
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I'm no civil engineer, but I'm pretty sure that I know the reason traffic seems to halt for no reason in the Los Angeles basin's freeways:

Miles ahead, there's always some joker who decides to get off at the next exit from the far left lane. They abruptly cut off two or three lanes of traffic to do it.

Miles back, traffic comes to a dead stop in just under a minute.

I've seen this firsthand when I noticed a bumbling driver cross three lanes of traffic on a slight upgrade causing all lanes of traffic to hit their brakes at the same time I had KFWB traffic radio on. Within five minutes the traffic channel was reporting stopped traffic in all lanes at the next traffic update. I thought to myself 'Well, now I know how traffic stops for no reason'.

Once that happens, impatient drivers miles back perform needless lane changes just so they can get in the lane that they perceive as still moving along. This can even cause several road rage incidents, all because of a handful of disobedient, impatient, and negligent drivers.

Boy, I'm glad I no longer live where there's high density traffic. When I lived in SoCal, I used to drive an hour and a half each way to work and back. Never again will I waste my life like that.

12 posted on 12/24/2007 9:25:16 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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> Isn't all that prima facie obvious? What on earth else would cause the backup besides someone harshly applying brakes near the front?

Of course. But the point of the article is that a relatively small, transient event (one person applying their brakes, and then moving back up to speed) has a growing effect backwards in traffic, until some distance behind, a lot of people are coming to a complete halt. The fact that braking causes it is secondary. The interesting observation is the multiplying effect rippling back through the traffic.

13 posted on 12/24/2007 9:26:15 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: ckilmer

This all began happening when they removed the “chrome horn” from the front of vehicles.


14 posted on 12/24/2007 9:27:14 PM PST by SouthTexas (Have a Merry and Blessed Christmas.)
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Since I find this type of traffic jam among life’s worst frustrations, I propose that a system be installed in all new cars that incorporates a shotgun shell, aimed at the driver’s seat and triggered when the in-car electronics analyse slow reaction times and consequent over-braking. This would have three benefits: 1) the guilty driver would never again make that mistake; 2) other drivers would be much more aware of the total road situation to avoid #1, promoting much higher levels of driving skills; and 3) since the initial over-braking will have caused a traffic jam anyway, having to remove the car and formerly-corporeal driver would at least give us a REAL reason for the tie-up. :-)


15 posted on 12/24/2007 9:27:53 PM PST by TrueKnightGalahad (When you're racing...it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.)
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To: steve86
Isn't all that prima facie obvious? What on earth else would cause the backup besides someone harshly applying brakes near the front?

Well, sometimes it's the good old car chase (at least if you live in L.A.).

16 posted on 12/24/2007 9:27:58 PM PST by Cementjungle
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“The research team now plans to develop a model for cars equipped with new electronic devices, which could cut down on over-braking as a result of slow reactions.”

Proposed solution is worse compared with the problem. If a pedestrian suddenly appears in my headlights how the device is going adapt?? Or has anyone seen a problem couple of cars ahead of you? A big one, and reacted before the cars in front of you.

17 posted on 12/24/2007 9:31:48 PM PST by Greg67 (Reed deeper..)
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I have noticed that traffic slows where carpool have an entrance / exit. When cars try to cross several lanes to get to an exit. This is one reasons why carpools doesn’t help the flow of traffic.


18 posted on 12/24/2007 9:34:14 PM PST by ThomasThomas (An investigative journalist is one who uses spellcheck.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

I guess it’s nice the mathematicians have built a working model.

But when I lived in Los Angeles during 1995-2005, the traffic reporters
on stations like KABC 790AM would often talk about the origin of
traffic jams thusly: At 6:30 AM, somebody hits their brakes, probably
for no reason...and by 6:35 AM, you’ve got a major jam on the same
stretch of road.

Or you’ve got “lookie-loos” that decide they’ve got to reduce speed fairly
fast by 15-20 mph in order to scope that gawd-awful wreck on the other
side of the road. Next thing you know, there’s an enforced slowdown of
their traffic lanes reaching back a mile or more.


19 posted on 12/24/2007 9:35:10 PM PST by VOA
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To: ckilmer
I saw this very explanation some years ago on a cable show.
20 posted on 12/24/2007 9:35:26 PM PST by razorback-bert (Remember that amateurs built the Ark while professionals built the Titanic.)
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