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Tancredo's impact: GOP race, country more mean-spirited (Laughable barf alert)
The Rocky Mountain News ^ | December 22, 2007 | Mike Litwin

Posted on 12/22/2007 7:49:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

I'll admit it. I underestimated Tom Tancredo. I underestimated the impact he could make as a presidential candidate, particularly as a candidate who was polling, as many of us had predicted, around 2 percent.

And yet, I had no idea he could take one issue and, with it, help make the Republican presidential race - and the country itself - an uglier, nastier and more mean-spirited place to be.

He didn't do it by himself, of course. He wasn't even the lead player. You have to give that role to Lou Dobbs and the huge audience on his team.

Still, you'd have to call Tancredo's aborted presidential run - his never-even-get-to-a- vote run, his abandonment- even-by-the-Minutemen run, his so-desperate-to-be-noticed-that-he'd-even-endorse- Mitt Romney run - a success. And that's even though, as a candidate, he was a minor disaster. And even though few will even notice, now that he's dropped out, that he's actually gone.(continued)

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: aliens; alsharpton; amnesty; borders; caucuses; electionpresident; elections; endorsements; gop; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; jimgilchrist; mikehuckabee; minutemen; mittromney; republicans; romney; ronpaul; shamnesty; theminutemen; tomtancredo; wheresthefence
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Good to see that newspapers are hiring the mentally ill in some kind of wacky affirmative action program.
1 posted on 12/22/2007 7:49:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If enforcing immigration laws is “mean-spirited,” would this intellectual giant also decry the enforcement of environmental laws? How about labor laws? Or tax laws?


2 posted on 12/22/2007 7:53:40 PM PST by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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Tancredo opposed the Pence-Hutchinson bill which contained many of the provisions that Tom supported in his own bill. It would have secured the borders immediately. That told me he wanted to milk the issue rather than seeing it resolved.

By backing Romney instead of Hunter (he actually criticized Hunter) he just flushed whatever credibility he had on the issue down the gas-station commode.

3 posted on 12/22/2007 7:59:05 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Congratulations Brett Favre! All-time NFL leader in career passing yards)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Eric Blair 2084

One day, this derisive Liberal writer will wake up and realize that Tom Tancredo ultimately is fighting for the sovereignty of the USA—the ultimate sanctuary for the sovereignty of the individual over government.


That scoffing sound I hear, Mr. Winston Smith Litwin, you can only make where individuals, not government, reign.

“WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH” — “1984”


4 posted on 12/22/2007 8:03:34 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Mean spirited” = not pushovers when it comes to rule of law.


5 posted on 12/22/2007 8:03:42 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I suppose I agree with the writer, because Tancredo basically betrayed Duncan Hunter when he endorsed Romney.

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According to Intrade, the winner of the December 12th GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938773/posts


6 posted on 12/22/2007 8:05:35 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Tancredo opposed the Pence-Hutchinson bill which contained many of the provisions that Tom supported in his own bill. It would have secured the borders immediately.

Not exactly.

From July, 2006:

Compromise would allow unlimited immigrants

The latest proposal in Congress for a "guest"-worker program would allow unlimited immigration of eligible workers during the first three years and allow them and their families to remain here indefinitely.

Offered by two Republicans, the plan is criticized by proponents of stricter immigration laws. They say the program would tilt the nation's immigration system toward millions of uneducated, unskilled workers.

As far as endorsing Romney instead of Hunter, Hunter has no more chance than Tancredo did of getting the nomination.

7 posted on 12/22/2007 8:12:29 PM PST by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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To: B Knotts

Good post and thanks for the information.


8 posted on 12/22/2007 8:24:03 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The author, Mike Litwin (I actually thought it read “nitwit” at first glance) sounds a lot like FNC’s “Beltway Boys”, Mort Kondracke and Fred Barnes. They’ve been calling those opposed to open borders racists, bigots, xenophobes and mean-spirited for months.

So that’s what we’re called when we want the nation’s immigration laws enforced and have concern about the crime and incredibly high health and education costs these people bring into our country. Not to mention the loss of jobs for Americans and the costs of identity theft they inflict upon real American citizens.


9 posted on 12/22/2007 8:27:43 PM PST by Joann37
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Imagine the nerve of the man!

Advocating that our government servants honor their oath of office and enforce the law of the land.

What a wild radical!


10 posted on 12/22/2007 8:30:29 PM PST by Iron Munro ( (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.))
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

“WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH” — “1984”

1984 was supposed to be a work of fiction....not a training manual.


11 posted on 12/22/2007 8:31:47 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Iron Munro
Right. He made sure the issue was front and center for the pubs. None of those guys have the stones to do much without a push. those that are unwilling to get immigration under control should be marginalized . Stiff arm the dopes like you would smokers , they matter little.
12 posted on 12/22/2007 8:35:16 PM PST by fantom
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To: fantom
     Can you really imagine this bunch in the White House? 


 

        HEEHAW, HEEHAW
Hey mom...what's for super? Pedro is back. He slipped over the border  yesterday, do you think we can get Maria to cook up some her fine tacos?

 I would rather vote for a Democrat than that....more government involvement...amnesty pushing... foreign affairs ignorant......Bush bashing....high taxing....parole giving...credential lying.....preacher hick from Arkansas. That's about it (sure I missed something)

Karl Rove might be right when he said to get ready for a Democratic era in the White House.  A vote for Huckabee is a vote for a Democrat, no matter which party wins.

13 posted on 12/22/2007 8:38:48 PM PST by glmjr
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IMO, anyone who thinks this way should voluntarily agree to a 50% tax hike to pay for services for illegal immigrants.


14 posted on 12/22/2007 8:42:00 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: B Knotts
The Pence plan would have secured the borders first. As far as the guest-worker provision, I'd still would rather have that than the AMNESTY crap that thankfully died (albeit temporarily) over the summer, and the ridiculous games being played with the border fence.

Tom Tancredo's original plan also included a guest-worker provision, though not as liberal as the Pence-Hutchinson plan.

As far as endorsing Romney instead of Hunter, Hunter has no more chance than Tancredo did of getting the nomination.

By endorsing Romney, a moderate, johnny-come-lately on immigration, Tancredo is putting money and self-interest ahead of the good of the country. He could have endorsed Hunter and really gave his campaign a shot in the arm.

15 posted on 12/22/2007 8:43:11 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Congratulations Brett Favre! All-time NFL leader in career passing yards)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tom Tancredo, stated very well, his reasons for endorsing Mitt Romney.

As a Romney supporter, I was suprised to learn tonight that Mitt finished as the number one graduate in his class at Harvard!

I knew he was brilliant but....wow!

Many of us see things in Mitt that others don’t seen to grasp, but that again is politics.


16 posted on 12/22/2007 8:43:27 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it.

Hunter is great, but does not have the staff, organization nor the right stuff to overtake all the other candidates.

Doesn’t take a scientist to figure this out.

Should Hunter become our candidate, he would be one I could get behind 100%.

Mitt does have the electability, the organization and the right stuff to go all the way.

That is why I wholeheartedly back him.


17 posted on 12/22/2007 8:49:54 PM PST by TheLion
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I'm not a Hunter supporter, but Tancredo should have endorsed him or Fred instead of Romney.

By endorsing Romney, he just flushed away whatever credibility he has on the issue.

Mitt does have the electability, the organization and the right stuff to go all the way.

Mitt won't win Iowa and Paul may upset him in NH. The other states preceding Super Tuesday such as South Carolina, Wyoming, Florida, and Nevada won't go for him. He'll have Michigan, and that's pretty much it IMO.

But I'm sure he'll make another loan to his campaign before long though.

18 posted on 12/22/2007 9:07:30 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Congratulations Brett Favre! All-time NFL leader in career passing yards)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

As I said, Tancredo stated his beliefs and the reasons he supports Romney. You don’t agree, but that is your opinion.

Fred has a spotty flip flopping record on illegal immigration. He is now very strongly in favor of enforcement but did very little in the senate.

Tancredo, knows these things.

The result of a little research on the Thompson immigration record. He did a few thing well:

Voted to grant amnesty to nearly one million
illegal aliens from Nicaragua and Cuba in 1997
Sen. Thompson voted to grant legal status to Nicaraguans and Cubans who had lived in the United States illegally since 1995, along with their spouses and minor unmarried children. The overall ten year impact of this legislation will be the addition of some 967,000 people to U.S. population. There was no separate vote on the amnesty, as it was included in the DC Appropriations bill. The only opportunity Senators had to vote in favor of or against the amnesty was the Mack Amendment to S.1156. The Mack Amendment passed 99-1.

In 1996, removed higher fines for businesses which hire illegal aliens
Sen. Thompson, in committee consideration of S.1664 protected businesses from having to pay higher fines when they are caught hiring illegal aliens. Under the idea that current fines were not enough of a deterrent against businesses cutting their labor costs by hiring illegal aliens, the Senate immigration subcommittee approved higher fines. Various study commissions have found that the willingness of U.S. businesses to hire illegal aliens is the No. 1 incentive for foreign workers to become illegal aliens here. But Sen. Thompson voted with a 10-8 majority in the Judiciary Committee to remove the higher fines from the 1996 legislation against illegal immigration.

Tried to kill voluntary pilot programs
for workplace verification in 1996
Sen. Thompson voted IN FAVOR of the Abraham Amendment to S.1664. He was part of a coalition of pro-business conservatives and liberal civil libertarians who tried to use the amendment to kill the establishment of voluntary pilot programs in high-immigration states. The programs were intended to assist employers in verifying whether people they had just hired had the legal right to work in this country. Such verification is considered by many experts to be an essential tool for withdrawing the job magnet from illegal aliens. The verification system established by S.1664 did not involve an ID card. Rather it provided that when new workers wrote down their Social Security number on an application, employers could phone into a national verification system to help assure that the number was a real number and belonged to the person giving it. In earlier smaller pilot programs, businesses had hailed the verification system for making it easier for them to avoid hiring illegal aliens. Sen. Thompson was unsuccessful in stopping the voluntary verification system. The Senate tabled the by a 54-46 vote.

http://profiles.numbersusa.com/improfile.php3?DistSend=TN&VIPID=743#Inviting/Repelling%20Illegal%20Aliens


19 posted on 12/22/2007 9:16:57 PM PST by TheLion
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Good to see that newspapers are hiring the mentally ill in some kind of wacky affirmative action program.

It's Mike Litwin. I didn't read the article. But I bet if I sat down for ten minutes, I could predict every idea contained in the article and a lot of the wording. He's about as predictable as Miss Morford.

20 posted on 12/22/2007 9:32:36 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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