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Back where they belong.
1 posted on 12/22/2007 6:16:16 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy

We may need them again.


2 posted on 12/22/2007 6:18:39 AM PST by TLEIBY308
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Back where they belong.

While that was my first thought as well, especially as one who grew up in Valley Forge, I have second thoughts.

Given the current trend of affairs and sentiment in this country, perhaps they are safer in private hands.


4 posted on 12/22/2007 6:23:38 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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"Bloody Ban" or "Bloody Tarleton" in a bloody dreadful portrait.
Painted by Sir Joshua Reynolds

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5 posted on 12/22/2007 6:25:34 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Pharmboy

Very kewl. Thanx.


7 posted on 12/22/2007 6:28:36 AM PST by purpleraine
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These flags represent some supremely dedicated and brave men, now long gone, whose many sacrifices for our country we can only imperfectly imagine. We are a part of their legacy and we should be eternally grateful to them for their dedication.

Every school bus within driving distance needs to be packed to the gills and headed to see these flags when they go on display.

12 posted on 12/22/2007 6:55:42 AM PST by Gritty (If the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle? - Paul of Tarsus)
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Thanks Pharmboy. I wondered what this meant:

“notorious British cavalry leader Banestre Tarleton”

Found this hissy fit:

http://www.onlineathens.com/stories/071100/mov_0711000005.shtml

“Yes, Tarleton was a ruthless soldier,” Clein added, “but the film goes a lot farther than that and assassinates his character altogether.”

No evidence exists that Tarleton was involved in infanticide or any incidents such as the church arson and murders, said Scott Withrow, historian at South Carolina’s Cowpens National Battlefield, where the Redcoats were defeated in 1781.

“As far as I know, it did not happen,” said Withrow, though he noted Tarleton had a reputation for brutality. “Somehow the Patriot forces latched onto Tarleton and used him for propaganda. The Patriot army were masters of this at that time and they built him up as a hated person.”

These two are from an American source:

http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/williamsburg/dp-news_revwarflags_1222dec22,0,7042608.story

...Rejecting Tarleton’s demand for his surrender, Col. Abraham Buford held his troops’ fire until it was too late, then watched as the overwhelming British charge wrenched his position into chaos...

...”So prized were these hard-won banners that Tarleton sent them back to England long before he surrendered 18 months later as part of the devastating British defeat at Yorktown.”


13 posted on 12/22/2007 6:56:46 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, December 18, 2007___________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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1779

Three years after the Declaration of Independence was signed. What a quagmire!

14 posted on 12/22/2007 6:59:11 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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Given the sanctimony and self-righteousness seen in at least one quote in that hissy fit linked above, this British source turned out to be amusing and ironic:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1792724,00.html

...”Tarleton boasts,” Horace Walpole reported, “of having butchered more men and lain with more women than anyone in the army.” In Reynolds’ studio he encountered the actress Mary Robinson, always known to the world, after a radiant performance in Sheridan’s production of The Winter’s Tale, as Perdita. She had recently been the mistress of the 17-year-old Prince of Wales - the one who became George IV. Someone had bet Tarleton that he couldn’t seduce her, and he didn’t lose bets like that. They stayed more or less together through 15 turbulent years, but often he made life hard for her. In 1783, desperate to escape from his creditors, he suddenly left for France. Perdita, who was pregnant, set off in pursuit. On the way she miscarried, and was left partly paralysed, which ended her stage career. But by now she was also established as a novelist and poet: her output, punctuated by adoring tributes to Tarleton, was successful enough to help pay his debts... The issue that roused him most was slavery. Tarleton was fervently for it. He argued that the economy of Liverpool would be ruined without it (his own family had made its fortune out of the slave trade) and maintained that, in any case, the slaves themselves were happy with their condition. “The common sense of the empire,” he claimed, “will strangle this modern attempt at mistaken philanthropy.” In time he broke with Perdita, whose bitterness against him permeated the rest of her life. Then, in his mid-40s, he married a girl of 20 - more specifically a rich girl of 20... The flags he had captured in the days of his glory remained in his family’s keeping. Captain Christopher Tarleton Fagan, who is selling them now, is his great-great-great-great-nephew. He’s sorry to let them go, he told an American newspaper, but he can no longer afford the insurance. [from 2006]

from the National Park Service:

http://www.nps.gov/archive/cowp/tarleton.htm

Traditionally, Tarleton was seen as a “butcher” when , it was said, America forces under Buford laid down their arms in an attempt to surrender yet the British continued their assault. From then on, his reputation grew and “Tarleton’s quarter”13, in effect, came to mean “no quarter.”

“Tarleton’s quarter” was to become a rallying cry at the Battle of Cowpens. Tarleton, then only twenty-six, had been charged with covering the Carolina upcountry against Patriot guerillas. Specifically, he was to seek out and destroy a threat to his rear, a wing of the American Southern Army, commanded by General Daniel Morgan. By January 12, 1781, he was closing in on Morgan, pushing his men on, fording the rain-swollen Enoree, Tyger, and Pacolet Rivers. Morgan, on the other hand, suddenly halted a desperate retreat, was joined by more militia, and parlayed the fear and hatred of Tarleton into victory at Cowpens in the South Carolina Upcountry.

At Cowpens, January 17, 1781, Morgan appeared to take into account Tarleton’s tendency to rush the attack. His collapsing lines (skirmishers, militia, and Continentals14) brought the tired (having marched since two in the morning) but confident British in prematurely, in effect, exposing them to heavy fire. As the Continentals pinned the British down, militia cavalry would crush them in a flank attack. A mistaken command to retreat drew the British in even more, and, when the retreat was stopped, the Continental line turned and fired with devastating results. In the ensuing panic, the American cavalry, already engaged in battle, flanked the British left, leading to double envelopment and victory and a turning point in the war in the South.

At battle’s end, American cavalry leader William Washington, in mad pursuit of the defiant Tarleton along the Green River Road, engaged the British commander in a dramatic hand-to-hand encounter, in which Washington barely escaped with his life. With the approach of American riflemen, Tarleton, with fifty-four of his supporters, abandoned the battle and fled east toward the British camp, never to be caught up with.

Tarleton would draw criticism from older officers who believed he lacked “military maturity.” Held by some to be personally responsible for the death of some fine officers and veteran troops, Tarleton subsequently submitted his resignation but it was not accepted.

[okay, I hate him now, too. Figures that his resignation was not accepted — the Crown needed a butcher to do its hideous bidding]


17 posted on 12/22/2007 7:10:53 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, December 18, 2007___________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Welcome home!


22 posted on 12/22/2007 7:33:50 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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HEAR HEAR!


30 posted on 12/22/2007 8:34:47 AM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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Bookmark


34 posted on 12/22/2007 9:11:04 AM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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The story of the philosophy and actions that lead up to and through our revolution and the establishment of our nation on a firm footing is one that has been obscured and ignored by our education system and our media. Every once in a great while the light shines trough such as the A&E TV movie “The Crossing”. Our children are purposefully being dumbed down into easy to handle chattle instead of being molded into free thinking individuals.


43 posted on 12/22/2007 8:07:06 PM PST by fella (The proper application of the truth far more important than the knowledge of it's existance."Ike")
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While I was attending some training at Ft. Monmouth, NJ in the early 70’s one of our training officers was a NATO exchange officer. One day he boasted to us that his regiment still had the American battle flag that had flown over Bunker Hill. One hard charging infantry officer in our class from Boston was quick to point out that we still had the hill.


44 posted on 12/22/2007 8:24:35 PM PST by Natural Law
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My g-g-g-g-grandfather was killed by Tarleton's dragoons at the battle of Monck's Corner, South Carolina in 1780. Tarleton and Ferguson completely suprised Huger and Washington who barely managed to escape into the swamps.

Battle of Monck's Corner

45 posted on 12/22/2007 8:25:21 PM PST by Godebert
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Dead Old Guys ping


48 posted on 12/23/2007 11:05:28 AM PST by Professional Engineer (www.pinupsforvets.com)
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