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Unfortunate news for backbone of US Air Superiority /Supremacy fleet...

And no doubt expensive to fix.

1 posted on 12/22/2007 4:21:31 AM PST by xsrdx
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Duct tape, lots and lots of it.


2 posted on 12/22/2007 4:28:05 AM PST by driftdiver
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Whats everyones opinion of the possibility the AF brass is making a bigger dal out of this to get more F22’s.?

Fox did a report on it and I can believe it to some extent...like the kid who tells his dad his bike is broken to get the newest one....


3 posted on 12/22/2007 4:32:30 AM PST by conservativehusker (GO BIG RED!!!!)
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They don’t want to fix it they want new toys to break.


5 posted on 12/22/2007 4:52:59 AM PST by omega4179 (Bring me the broomstick of the wicked witch of the west.)
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Ouch/ping.


6 posted on 12/22/2007 4:55:43 AM PST by steveegg (I am John Doe, and a monthly donor)
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The grounded fighter jets do not include 224 F-15Es, which have been inspected and cleared.
The E models, used to support the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, are about 10 years younger and have a more robust frame.

If the frame of my automobile was in serious structural condition, I would not repair, it's just time for a new car!

7 posted on 12/22/2007 4:58:31 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, June 2004.)
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I remember in flight refueling them in 1976, so they are aging.
9 posted on 12/22/2007 5:03:20 AM PST by boomop1
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A long time ago, I used to build the Intergrated Circuits for the guidance systems of these.


16 posted on 12/22/2007 6:03:11 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Check out ---->> www.eaglebrookchurch.com <<----)
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19 posted on 12/22/2007 6:08:36 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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21 posted on 12/22/2007 6:18:51 AM PST by Eye of Unk
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There is a lot of ignorance in the posts. Any part on a plane can be replaced. They rebuild ford trimotors, dc-3s, and other antique planes all the time and we replaced most of the wing spars on the A-10s in recent years due to hi-g


22 posted on 12/22/2007 6:26:21 AM PST by omega4179 (Bring me the broomstick of the wicked witch of the west.)
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Remember that these are planes designed to fight the Cold War, which ended in 1989. We don’t need them anymore because there is no current threat to America from the defunct Soviet Union. All we need are just a handful of WWII commemorative aircraft to defend the continent. We are safely sheltered by the oceans on either side of us.

(scarcasm off)


25 posted on 12/22/2007 6:51:40 AM PST by GreyFriar ( 3rd Armored Division - Spearhead)
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Its time to build more F 22s. They are expensive but losing air superiority to a potential enemy would be “expensive” also.


29 posted on 12/22/2007 7:01:28 AM PST by darkmatter ("Every attempt to make war easy and safe will result in humiliation and disaster" William T. Sherman)
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The critics of the F-22 based their argument, in part, that the F-15 is adequate against known threats and will last for 20 more years.

Oops!

50 posted on 12/22/2007 7:38:14 AM PST by pfflier
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US Navy prepping an unmanned combat aircraft US Navy has just unveiled their plans to develop an unmanned combat aircraft that will combat Lockheed Martin’s F-35 joint strike fighter. Furthermore, to accomplish the project, Northrop Grumman is awarded with $636 million contract to design, build, and fly an Unmanned Combat Air System ‘that would operate from the decks of the Navy’s giant nuclear-powered aircraft carriers’. Now, if the project goes according to plans, very soon we will see that gunners will join the forces within 10 to 15 years. Moreover, if we consider our land-based automatic soldiers to fire our weapons as deployed in Iraq, then we can forecast that time is not far ahead when a full-blown robotic army will soon wrestle in wars. http://www.weaponsblog.org/
51 posted on 12/22/2007 7:40:41 AM PST by Eye of Unk
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Current and former Air Force officials said that the grounding of the F-15s -- on average 25 years old -- is the longest that U.S. fighter jets have ever been kept out of the air.

Poor Starscream - no wonder he switched forms to an F-22!



55 posted on 12/22/2007 7:47:26 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Therefore the prudent keep silent at that time, for it is an evil time." - Amos 5:13)
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What was the rated airframe life when they were introduced? If it was around 25 years, our current situation only arises because of a lack of planning.


56 posted on 12/22/2007 7:57:21 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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Here's my take on it, FWIW- and I respectfully defer to those in the forum who know way more about this than I do:

The aircraft that is supposed to replace the F-15 is the F-22. There won't be nearly enough of them. For all intents and purposes, with the exception of the F-16, the fighter branch of the Air Force is effectively hamstrung.

And the F-16 is as old (or nearly as old) as the F-15. What are we replacing that aircraft with?

America's enthrallment with gee-whiz technology and super-expensive manufacturing methods has put us in a pretty bad way. What on earth is our DOD going to do about this mess?

63 posted on 12/22/2007 8:13:58 AM PST by 60Gunner (This is an Emergency Room. You want the family package? Take your six kids to Disneyland.)
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Good news for defense spending, though!


70 posted on 12/22/2007 9:10:53 AM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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shortly after one of the airplanes broke into large chunks and crashed

You don't expect that anymore. Usually it is the other way around.

92 posted on 12/22/2007 2:11:51 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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The F-15E is the fix. The airframe was changed to address these defects.


96 posted on 12/22/2007 5:39:51 PM PST by GBA ( God Bless America!)
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