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Users Left in Lurch by Network Shutdown
Yahoo ^ | 12-21-2007 | Peter Svensson

Posted on 12/21/2007 2:27:48 PM PST by em2vn

When Adele Rothman bought her 16-year-old son a car in 2003, she made sure to pick one that had OnStar, the onboard communications and safety system. What the Scarsdale, N.Y., resident didn't know was that the OnStar system in the car was already doomed to die. The federal government decided in 2002 to let cellular carriers shut down analog cell phone networks, used by Rothman's Saab and about 500,000 other OnStar-equipped cars, after Feb. 18, 2008.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: analog; automakers; digital; generalmotors; onstar; satellite
How much will this cost General Motors.
1 posted on 12/21/2007 2:27:50 PM PST by em2vn
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To: em2vn
I didn’t know OnStar was analog...
2 posted on 12/21/2007 2:51:24 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

From the link, they went digital for all their OnStar installations from 2006. So if you have a GM car less than 2 years old, you should be OK - for now. If you have an older GM car, you should have bought Japanese or Korean.


3 posted on 12/21/2007 2:58:15 PM PST by PAR35
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To: em2vn
I think this is muchadoo about nothing.
The car is five years old !!
I have no doubt that a digital RF unit can replace the analog without much cost to anyone.
4 posted on 12/21/2007 3:00:36 PM PST by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia. Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: PAR35

Actually, the cars that are getting “cut off” are 2004 and earlier, not 06.

So, if your GM is more than 4 years old and uses OnStar, you will lose that service.

This is not news, they’ve been warning about this since 2006 at least.

That said, if I recall correctly, GM said that there were less than a couple of thousand OnStar subscribers with cars that old, and that some of them (not all) will be able to upgrade their transponders.


5 posted on 12/21/2007 3:25:13 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: em2vn

What makes this sad/funny is how heavily promoted that feature is. Jeez.


6 posted on 12/21/2007 3:28:06 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Spktyr
Actually, the cars that are getting “cut off” are 2004 and earlier, not 06.

"but some cars made as late as 2005 can't use digital networks for OnStar, nor can they be upgraded. http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071221/cellular_sunset.html?.v=2

7 posted on 12/21/2007 3:34:35 PM PST by PAR35
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"but some cars made as late as 2005 can't use digital networks for OnStar, nor can they be upgraded. http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071221/cellular_sunset.html?.v=2

My wife's 04 Trailblazer was upgraded 2 weeks ago.

8 posted on 12/21/2007 3:44:18 PM PST by saminfl (,/i)
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To: Spktyr

And by the way - OnStar disagrees with you and agrees with me.

My statement: “they went digital for all their OnStar installations from 2006. So if you have a GM car less than 2 years old, you should be OK - for now.”

Your statement: “Actually, the cars that are getting “cut off” are 2004 and earlier”

When does GM say they went all digital? With the 2006 cars, of course. “Some 2004, most 2005, and all 2006 and newer model-year GM vehicles with OnStar are equipped with dual-mode (analog/digital) equipment that is compatible with both the analog and digital cellular networks.” http://www.onstar.com/us_english/jsp/explore/onstar_basics/faq_popup.jsp

So some 2005s WILL be cut off.


9 posted on 12/21/2007 3:52:10 PM PST by PAR35
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To: saminfl

Sounds like you were lucky and got one of the few 2004s that could be upgraded. Just remember to check the maps and stay out of the big chunks of Texas and Alabama that had analog coverage, but not digital.


10 posted on 12/21/2007 3:54:17 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

I type corrected, then.

But since the decision was in 2002, and everyone’s known of the impending analog cell net shutdown since then... this should have been a case of buyer beware. If you didn’t want this to happen, you shouldn’t have bought a GM.


11 posted on 12/21/2007 4:13:09 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: AlexW

Does the article indicate that is the case?


12 posted on 12/21/2007 4:13:49 PM PST by em2vn
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To: PAR35

I have an ‘01 GMC Sierra 4WD extended cab. Zero problems.


13 posted on 12/21/2007 5:06:44 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: PAR35
If you have an older GM car, you should have bought Japanese or Korean.

You should have bought Japanese or Korean, OnScam or not. But rest assured, it will be worth crap soon enough for you to replace it with something made with quality soon enough.

14 posted on 12/21/2007 5:11:09 PM PST by hunter112 (Hillary Clinton - America’s Ex-Wife®)
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To: hunter112
But rest assured, it will be worth crap soon enough for you to replace it with something made with quality soon enough.

GM constructs cars far better than you construct sentences.

15 posted on 12/21/2007 7:07:05 PM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
‘01 GMC Sierra 4WD extended cab. Zero problems.

It has digital OnStar?

16 posted on 12/21/2007 7:13:33 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

I don’t know. Never used it.


17 posted on 12/21/2007 9:22:11 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: PAR35

If you have an older GM car, you should have bought Japanese or Korean.

I hear China has cars for sale too...

Knock yourself out...


18 posted on 12/21/2007 11:03:10 PM PST by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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