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To: cva66snipe; mkjessup; SJackson; yonif; Simcha7; American in Israel; Slings and Arrows; ...
"The Bush Administration does all they can do to protect Israels enemies isn't that interesting. If Condi gets wind of any military actions by Israel she'll be on her broom and in the M.E. faster than you can say Mad Maddie the second...."

Israel's relationship with the United States is not a suicide pact. If the Israelis unilaterally fly a strike force in there tomorrow, Rice and the rest of the world will find out after the fact, as the Reagan Administration found out after the fact, post-Osirak. Rice can scream all she wants.

Israel's choices, since the publication of the worthless NIE report, are limited. Any sane person, well versed in Middle East affairs (as most FReepers are) and contemporary Islam, could not but conclude any Israeli operation (whether truly effective or not) would be a clear self defense act, at the least in light of the Persian leadership's constant threats to destroy Israel.

Some believe Israel does not have the military capability to shut down the Persian nuclear program. Many believe they do, as well as me. At the least, set it back many years.

Western power brokers have apparently decided a strike right now on Iran would be too "disruptive" to the global economy. So, personally, I anticipate waking up one morning in the future to hear about an IDF strike on Iran that will have been sophisticated, well planned out, and quite surprising, AGAIN, in its reach and scope, to the rest of the world.

Now, whether self defense pacts between Russia and Iran kick in, and alliances between certain radical Islamic Middle East states which have realized the rotten fruit of years of Islamic hatred whipped up against the Jews coming to full fruition in war, and TIMES person of the year, Vladimir Putin invokes and co-opts Bush's "preemptive" war doctrine to invade the Middle East to "stop the threat" of the Jewish nation like we did with Iraq (while seeking to counter U.S. hegemony in the region)—and whether people choose to believe this is Ezekiel chpt. 38 and 39 fulfilled, is for future discussion.

Nonetheless, nothing has changed. The U.S. can stop Iran. The U.S. and Israel together can stop Iran. But if the U.S. doesn't want to stop Iran, they are delusional if they think Israel will idly stand by while Iran develops their nuclear warfare capability.

Those are Rice's choices.







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72 posted on 12/23/2007 10:28:12 PM PST by Salem (What can men do against such reckless hate? ... Ride out with me. Ride out and meet them!)
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To: Salem
Never underestimate Israels resolve. They will always act in their own best interests, as they see fit.

You're correct in saying that Rice isn't in their equations ................ FRegards

74 posted on 12/23/2007 10:54:30 PM PST by gonzo (OK! You got it - I'm here! What are ya gonna use yer other two wishes for? ...)
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To: Salem; All
Shalom & Blessings!

How are You Salem?~!

And I sure do agree with You!

Israel knows how to take care of herself, and let us Never forget that Israel and God's Chosen People are THE APPLE OF HIS EYE!

AMEN & AMEN.

PS: It really is me, Im back to FR!

76 posted on 12/23/2007 11:05:35 PM PST by Simcha7 ((The Plumb - Line has been Drawn, T'shuvah/Return for The Kingdom of HaShem is at hand!))
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To: Salem
An excellent, informative post. Thank you.

Nonetheless, nothing has changed. The U.S. can stop Iran. The U.S. and Israel together can stop Iran. But if the U.S. doesn't want to stop Iran, they are delusional if they think Israel will idly stand by while Iran develops their nuclear warfare capability.
Those are Rice's choices.


Rice should have worked harder at becoming NFL Commissioner.

"A man (or woman) has got to know their limitations"
- Clint Eastwood as Inspector Harry Callahan in 'Magnum Force'.
78 posted on 12/24/2007 2:35:41 AM PST by mkjessup (Hunter-Bolton '08 !! Patriots who will settle for nothing less than *Victory* in the War on Terror!)
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To: Salem

I am betting on Israeli smackdown on Iran do you think Israel get blame for it on world community YOU THINK LOL!


84 posted on 12/24/2007 10:24:28 AM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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