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To: Convert from ECUSA; PugetSoundSoldier; GOP_1900AD
Business as usual from the leadership. China is about as much our “friend” as Tojo was in the autumn of 1941.

Correct.

But some characters don't seem to get it.

Must be blinded by their fantasies. Or their bulging wallets.

38 posted on 12/21/2007 3:35:09 PM PST by Paul Ross (Dear Mary LaRonald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Paul Ross
Then I suppose you support eliminating all relations with Israel - remember Jonathan Pollard?

Or how about the entire EU blowing open and investigating our spying on banking transactions inside the EU. I guess we should cut off all relations with the EU, too?

You think our allies don't spy on us? You think we don't spy on our allies? In this case, we caught the Chinese, and didn't acknowledge it until well past we'd exploited the find. I can assure you of that...

Look, if you want to cut China out of being an "enemy" of the US, then change them. The best way to change societies is economically. It's been proven since the time of Rome - economic prosperity will create peace, and ease tensions.

DUncan Hunter is simply an isolationist who doesn't recognize history, and he's completely wrong on trade. Trade barriers weaken relations between countries, and increase tensions and escalate hostilities. Increase the economy, and the need to compete militarily goes away. 2500 years of history shows it to be so. Those who fail to study history are doomed to repeat it...

Trade is the single most effective means of growing our own economy and power (for ultimately military power derives soley from economic power), and for assuaging tensions and fears worldwide. People don't fight when they're fed and comfortable.

When other countries use subsidies to prop up their companies, it's the ultimate sign of surrender; like the EU propping up Airbus. In the short term, it does hurt Boeing a bit, but Boeing's used to the competition and is surviving quite well. In the long term, the inefficiency of Airbus will become such a drag on the EU they will either have to close it down completely, or wean Airbus off the subsidies which - much like pensions and benefits at GM - will be extremely traumatic and cause Airbus to fall further behind.

A country using tariffs to "skew" trade is saying that it can't compete - it's second rate. Take that as a compliment and compete harder. They can't keep it up. We broke the USSR economically - President Reagan recognized that. We are breaking the EU with the undervaluing of the dollar (yes, undervalued - it's being manipulated on purpose and is artificially surpressed) since they got uppity about trade. Ultimately the EU will collapse and leave us in an even stronger position... We can compete now, imagine when they fall apart.

Anyway, I await you to cry for elimination of trade relations with Israel and the EU, since they also are spying and counter-spying on our intelligence networks...

40 posted on 12/21/2007 5:00:09 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Complaining about the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible.)
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