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Karma Kosher Conscripts In New-Age Diaspora Seek Refuge In Goa
The Agonist ^ | December 20, 2007 | A. Craig Copetas

Posted on 12/20/2007 7:14:15 AM PST by wideawake

Gupta the swastika salesman arrives at sunset, fires a kerosene lantern and displays his gold- painted trinkets on an Indian beach filled with hundreds of young Israelis dancing in a fog of hashish.

Draped in garlands strung with jasmine blossoms, the pulsating Israelis are freshly decommissioned from the military and seeking a cheap retreat to unwind from their obligatory two- to-three years of safeguarding the Jewish state. The conscripts find sanctuary in the thousands of dilapidated wicker seaside shacks and dozens of isolated jungle ghettos that weave along a 78-mile coast and snake up treacherous dirt tracks into the impoverished mountain villages of Goa.

According to Israeli and Indian officials, between 40,000 and 60,000 young Israelis have either permanently moved or established long-term residence in India. They have created new lives for themselves alongside the country's 900 million Hindus and 150 million Muslims and caused tension among the local population because of the widespread use of recreational drugs.

``Our souls need a permanent break from Israel,'' says army veteran Tomel Basel, 24, pocketing one of Gupta's 10 cent charms, the ancient cross with bent arms that is venerated by Hindus as a lucky adornment.

``We're all runaways,'' Basel says before filling his lungs with potent smoke and exhaling his separate reality on the squalor of Anjuna Beach. ``There's nothing for us back in Israel.''

(Excerpt) Read more at agonist.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hippies; india; israel
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I find it hard to believe that Israel, a nation which has approximately 1 million people between the ages of 18 and 35, has 40 to 60 thousand of that total living like hippies in India. One out of every fifteen young people.
1 posted on 12/20/2007 7:14:16 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Alouette; Zionist Conspirator; rmlew

For your pinglists or comments. Weird article.


2 posted on 12/20/2007 7:14:58 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

Kosher Karma Karmeleons?......


3 posted on 12/20/2007 7:15:46 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: wideawake

what happened to the old hippies there?


4 posted on 12/20/2007 7:18:56 AM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: wideawake

Sounds like they are going for a long vacation. Doubt they will live on the beach forever.


5 posted on 12/20/2007 7:19:12 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: wideawake
``Our souls need a permanent break from Israel,''

Hahahahaha! This guy will be first in line when Chabad comes to town for their annual Passover Seder.

6 posted on 12/20/2007 7:19:23 AM PST by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; 2ndDivisionVet; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; af_vet_rr; agrace; Aiko; ...
FReepMail to be added or removed from this pro-Israel/Judaic/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

7 posted on 12/20/2007 7:20:13 AM PST by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: wideawake

Goa is one of the most beautiful parts of India. It also has a sizeable Christian population (about 25%), and not so many Muslims. If your destination is India, you can’t do much better than Goa.


8 posted on 12/20/2007 7:35:14 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (Not a newbie, I just wanted a new screen name.)
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To: Red Badger

Dang! Ya beat me to it! Boy George will never die!! (double dangit!)


9 posted on 12/20/2007 7:36:03 AM PST by blu
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That's why I was questioning this article. Goa is a huge destination for both European and American clubbers and tourists as well as European and American hippies and "seekers."

I can easily beleive that there are a hundred thousand or more Westerners permanently settled there - but not 60,000 Israelis.

That seems like a pretty crazy number.

10 posted on 12/20/2007 7:39:12 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: blu
blu hangs head in embarrassment The fact that I know the song, and the artist (but forgot he was in Culture Club at the time) makes me very afraid. I mean, remembering that ick is taking up valuable space in my head, which could have been put to better use by remembering some Algebra, or when our first child started walking, or any number of things!

Does remembering boy George as a clown certify me as truly demented??? Certainly going so far off-topic does, my apologies.

11 posted on 12/20/2007 7:47:42 AM PST by blu
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To: wideawake
Thanks for the ping, wideawake.

It's a good thing these young Israelis are buying hindu swastikas and not Southern Baptist missionary tracts. The ADL would be so upset!

12 posted on 12/20/2007 8:01:23 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator ("Liyshu`atkha qivviyti, HaShem!")
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With all the violence back home, the Israelis are among the most fearless travellers. Of course, Goa is pretty tame, but the other attraction that they seek in India is Kashmir. Imagine that, Jews travelling to a place in India that until very recently, had an Islamic insurgency in full swing.

Israel's unlikely home away from home

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/FH27Df05.html


BANGALORE - Israeli tourists are descending on an unlikely destination this year - strife-torn Jammu and Kashmir. For the second year in a row, Israelis have topped the list of foreign tourist arrivals to India's troubled hot spot.

According to figures issued by the Kashmir Tourism Department, more than 960 Israelis - a little less than one-tenth of the foreign tourist arrivals this year - have visited Kashmir, reports Reuters from Srinagar. Last year, 1,097 Israelis visited Kashmir. More are expected to troop in this year before the end of the peak tourist season in October.

Overall, about 200,000 tourists have visited Kashmir this year. Tourism is the main industry of the state, which is nestled in the Himalayas. Its snow-clad mountains, forests, orchards, grassy meadows, lakes and glacier-fed streams used to draw more than 800,000 tourists annually. About 40% of these were foreigners - prior to the eruption of the insurgency in 1989.

But with grenades and gun battles between militants and Indian security forces dominating the news coming out of Kashmir, tourist arrivals fell to a trickle. Foreign tourist arrivals dipped further when, in 1994, six western tourists trekking in the Himalayas were kidnapped by the al-Faran, an Islamist militant group that subsequently changed its name to Harkat-ul Mujahideen.

One of the hostages was beheaded, another escaped, and the fate of the rest remains unclear. Media reports on Kashmir and travel advisories issued by governments have kept many tourists away from the area for more than a decade.

An improvement in the security situation in Srinagar, the state's summer capital, and the India-Pakistan peace overtures have contributed to a recent surge in tourist arrivals. The flow of tourists, even foreign tourists, to the Kashmir Valley is understandable to some extent. The flow of Israeli tourists is not. Given the fact that Israelis see themselves to be vulnerable targets of Islamists, their flocking to Kashmir at a time when jihadi terrorism is far from quelled is hard to comprehend.

The armed uprising in Jammu and Kashmir started off as an anti-India insurgency led by a supposedly "secular" Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front. But quickly the uprising turned overtly Islamist, as pro-Pakistan groups such as the Hizbul Mujahideen dominated the militancy. From the mid-1990s onward, the jihadi element in the militancy started growing. Today it is the jihadis that dominate the anti-India violence.

Israel's role in India's counter-terrorism operations in Kashmir would make Israeli tourists all the more vulnerable in the state. In 2000, reports in the media said an Israeli counter-terrorism team, including military intelligence specialists and senior police commanders, visited Kashmir to assess India's security needs. Since then, several such visits are said to have taken place. Kashmiris insist that "Israeli agents" were in Kashmir much earlier.

India is drawing heavily on Israel's counter-terrorism expertise, intelligence and surveillance technology to tackle the infiltration of militants from Pakistan and to combat terrorism in Jammu and Kashmir. Israel's significant input into India's counter-terrorism operations in Jammu and Kashmir would make militants hate Israelis all the more.

But India as a tourist destination is not new to Israelis. The hippie haven of Goa has for several years drawn thousands of Israeli tourists. Restaurants selling Israeli food and shops with signboards in Hebrew are not an uncommon sight in Goa, where Israeli backpackers are warmly welcomed. But their arrival in droves to Kashmir over the past two years has taken many by surprise. This year, signboards outside a few shops in Srinagar were in Hebrew, apparently to woo Israeli tourists shopping for Kashmiri handicrafts.

The warm welcome that Kashmiris are extending foreign tourists, even Israelis, can be attributed to their desperation. They are anxious to make some money when the going is good. Kashmiris don't expect the tourist boom to last long and they are keen to make tourists feel at home.

Another reason is that Kashmiris are by and large a tolerant people; the Islam that is practiced there is a gentle, tolerant religion. With regard to India, for instance, they make a distinction between the Indian state and the Indian people. They say they have no problem with the Indian people. It is likely that in the case of Israel too, they differentiate between the Israeli state and the Israeli people and hold the former responsible for its policies toward the Palestinians.

It is the foreign mercenaries fighting in Kashmir and, more important, the jihadis that have an ax to grind with Israel and its people. Jihadi terrorists operating in Kashmir pose a threat to foreign tourists, and Israelis in particular. Shop owners who have put up signboards in Hebrew admit they are wary of drawing the wrath of the jihadis. But economic uncertainty forces them to take risks.

But why are Israelis willing to take such a risk? Back in 1991 about seven Israeli tourists were kidnapped, though they managed to escape.

An Israeli backpacker in Srinagar told Asia Times Online that he was drawn to Kashmir because of its scenic beauty, and because travel and accommodation there suited his limited budget. When asked about the dangers of travel in Kashmir, he replied that he was careful and did not stay out late. Besides, the situation in Kashmir was far safer than that back home in Israel, he pointed out.
Unlike other tourists who feel harassed when subjected to numerous airport checks and are intimidated by sandbagged bunkers and the presence of armed Indian paramilitary personnel on the streets of Srinagar, the Israeli tourist seems able to take this in stride.

For the Israeli tourist, then, violence-ravaged Kashmir is a home away from home.

Sudha Ramachandran is an independent researcher/writer based in Bangalore, India. She has a doctoral degree from the School of International Studies, Jawaharlal Nehru University in New Delhi. Her areas of interest include terrorism, conflict zones and gender and conflict. Formerly an assistant editor at the Deccan Herald (Bangalore), she now teaches at the Asian College of Journalism, Chennai.

(Copyright 2004 Asia Times Online Ltd. All rights reserved. Please contact content@atimes.com for information on our sales and syndication policies.)

13 posted on 12/20/2007 8:07:54 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: wideawake
Gupta the swastika salesman...

The biggest surprise of this article is that you can make money selling swastikas.

14 posted on 12/20/2007 3:03:47 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: wideawake

I don’t know where to begin with the snilling post-Zionist former Jews in exile.


15 posted on 12/20/2007 3:36:31 PM PST by rmlew (Paul/McKinney in 2008. Dhimmitude forever)
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To: rmlew

This has been India’s destiny for millennia. We have hosted and sheltered groups from everywhere including one of the lost tribes of Israel. I am glad more Jews come to India than the ones leaving for Israel. Goa is way safer than Israel is and I hope the Goanese will protect this group from the Muzzies.


16 posted on 12/21/2007 12:01:36 AM PST by MimirsWell
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To: wideawake

Goan beaches have restaurants with signboards in Hebrew & which serve Kosher food.So that should give an idea that there are quiet a few Israelis out there.


19 posted on 12/24/2007 8:58:35 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: CzarNicky

The Swastika has been a Hindu religious symbol millenia before Hitler.


20 posted on 12/24/2007 9:00:07 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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