Posted on 12/19/2007 5:42:22 PM PST by BenLurkin
I’ll just keep driving my 69 Mustang 428CJ. Taking it this week from Memphis to Birmingham and back.
How the Energy Bill Will Change ... the value of pre-law used cars.
Even including the heavier 24 cell battery vs 6 for 12v?
Twice the money for half the car.
I drive my old, full sized, relatively powerful van out to wellsite, laden with equipment and supplies to work as a geologist, finding oil right here in the U.S.A.
Look around out here, where the road is questionable, the weather often worse, and just getting here is often 'half the fun', and you will see a lot of 'giant vehicles' with 4WD and brush grilles, which are capable of hauling people and oilfield tools in and out of drilling locations. Ranchers and farmers in these parts drive similar vehicles to go similar places and do similar jobs, because they also need that much vehicle.
That simply isn't going to happen in a latter-day Yugo, or some tin can from China.
Not everyone lives or works on the printed side of the "Pavement Ends" sign, and sometimes "ego" has nothing to do with it.
But every time the city weenies water down the 4WD, the light truck becomes less suitable, and eventually we will have to drive something really big to get to work, because all the smaller stuff on the market won't cut it.
Welcome to the Union of Soviet Socialist States of Amerika. Big Brother Government is in control. Surrender all to your new god called liberal environmental nazi-ism.
All your bases are belong to us. Someone sent us down the bomb...
I have a 2006 VW Jetta diesel. 36 mpg in summer w/ A/C (in Phoenix, no less), 42 mpg in winter. One of the safest cars on the road. Replace all cars with diesel and efficiency will go up at least 10%. Combine w/ hybrid and you’re there.
Glad you enjoy helping sending billions to countries that hate us just to 'stick it to congress' and enjoy spending double what I do in gas every year.
Oh, get off of your soap box!
When this country decides it’s serious about energy it will begin an agressive nuclear power program, drill for oil in it’s own back yard and move out on a fuel-cell infrastructure.
Until then, it’s all politics and ideology!
I’m sure you’d recommend a hybrid with a 10 year break-even point!
No thanks!!!
And you have far more faith than I do that this country will ever get 'serious' about energy. I could care less about environmental concerns--I care only about #1) Lowering my OWN bill which means having a more fuel efficient vehicle #2 Sending less money to those countries that hate us which means having a more fuel efficient vehicle.
The next time you see a Viper and a “beater” vehicle side by side at a stoplight, it may be good for your soul to understand it could very well be me, and my friend, revving our engines and glorying in our own freedom of choice!
My beater has a vanity “veteran” tag plate.
The driver of that Viper is under no compulsion to apologise to you, or anyone else, for his/her personal choice of transportation.
Kia shmia!
I want reliability, quaility, and performance.
I looked seriously at the RAV-4, but it was just to flimsy inside. If fuel efficiency and my “OWN” bill were priorities, I may have accepted flimsy. They aren’t!
My car choices aren’t going to change the nation’s politics, and I’m not too worried about how many countries hates us.
I don’t have ANY faith this country will get serious about its energy policy until we’re neck deep in a crisis.
We’ll contine with such idiocy as turning food into fuel, wind, solar, and other pitiful, half-measures.
Meanwhile, I’ll keep buying quality, performance vehicles, once every 12 years.
Do you see any 12 yr old Kia’s on the road?
The folks that bought my “old” car will still be driving it in 5 years.
G Larry, you can always tell the socialist that come on FR, they always claim the government is right and they think we won't see through them!
rb22982, if you really want to get away from foreign oil you should be raising hell with the feds and state govs to get rid of the idiotic green laws and drill for oil here in the US, we have plenty of oil, but we must drill for it, it won't jump out of the ground by itself. We must also go nuclear if we want to lower engergy costs.
The lefties don't want energy savings, they don't want to save the environment and they don't really believe in Global Warming. They want the lower classes(us)to live like cave men, except without the cave or fire, can't burn wood you know, while they, the elite, enjoy expensive houses, vehicles and aircraft. After all, they can appreciate these things while those of the lower classes(us)really can't and don't deserve them. The bottom line is: They want to control us and this is one way they are doing it. Bush was a fool for signing this bill and our Republican senators and congresscritters who voted for this should be booted out of office as fast as we can do it.Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot or blind or maybe both.
I am 100% absolutely in favor of opening up drilling, coal plants and nuclear power anywhere and everywhere and have written my congresscritter as much. But with our current congress, that isn't happening.
Kias/Hyundais made in the last 5-6 years are a lot better than the ones made 15 years ago. They have bar none the best warranties out there. Many individual Kia dealerships offer lifetime warranties and not just the 100k that it comes with. I had a Hyundai from a long time ago that was a total piece of crap and said I’d never buy one again (was given to me for free after a death in the family). A friend of mine purchased a Kia (Kia & Hyundai are basically the same thing, different car names if you didn’t already know) in 2001. Was quite surprised. Purchased one for myself early in 2005. Neither of us have had any major expenses on the car besides normal tune ups.
Who drives the biggest polluting cars? Usually it's the poor folks who just can't afford to drop a lot of $ on a shiny new hybrid wondermobile. We can't "conserve" our way to prosperity. The population of the US continues to increase and with it, more people who want cars. When is the last time you saw an illegal alien driving a new car? The vast majority they drive are pieces of junk.
I do. 117 mph in a quarter mile. :)
And I get 23 mpg on cruse control.
Keep the government out of our lives.... the market place w/take care of gas mileage.
When gas reaches $7.00 a gallon, I'll buy your Yugo from you.
You have your priorities, they are not mine.
Hey Congress! You can’t legislate physics!
(But you can build lots of nuclear power plants to provide the power we need for plug-in cars)
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