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To: the_devils_advocate_666
You see, I recently wrote a column in which I mentioned that one of the things people need most is good, affordable day care for their kids. Here is the response I got from a 30-something Nebraska woman: "I have great news for Lisa Kogan -- 'safe, healthy, fun, warm-hearted day care for kids' does exist. It's called parents. By actually raising the children we choose to bring into the world, we can give our kids all this and more."

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I will resist a smart-ass reply congratulating you on being one of the 11 remaining members of society who can get by on a single income, especially given the forecasts that 15 years from now (when my daughter is ready for college), four years at a public institution will run somewhere in the neighborhood of $129,788.

And should Julia be smart enough to get into an Ivy League university, we're looking at roughly $279,760. Fortunately, she recently spent the better part of an hour with her little head stuck inside a shoebox, so affording Harvard may not be an issue.

But I can't help thinking how incredible it must feel to be unfazed by this prospect.

So let me get this straight. As the mother you don't have time to raise your child yourself because you are too busy working to pay for her nanny, babysitter, and future education?

That's pretty funny...who writes your material? ;)

9 posted on 12/19/2007 11:08:15 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

So, I see you made it further than I. So what was the point of her whole “piece”?


13 posted on 12/19/2007 11:11:41 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Mr. Jeeves
you are too busy working to pay for her nanny, babysitter, and future education?

You forgot to mention what calling Daddy in Europe for months on end may cost. Hey, what's good old Dad kicking into the equation, by the way?

17 posted on 12/19/2007 11:13:37 AM PST by trimom
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To: Mr. Jeeves
"...As the mother you don't have time to raise your child yourself because you are too busy working to pay for her nanny, babysitter, and future education?..."

I caught that too. What about dad? Can he lnd a hand? Oh yeah, 'Johannes' is currently seeing another, younger and firmer woman, because he's not married to you. That makes him free, and you a tired, worn out single mother.

It'll all turn out OK though, because the caregivers you hired come from ethnically diverse backgrounds, as you were quick to mention, and that makes them just awesome.

And the comment of their being only 11 stay-at-home moms in America, and the inference that they are a dying breed, is just offensive. We don't need your New York values in flyover country, lady, we're doing just fine.

26 posted on 12/19/2007 11:21:11 AM PST by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (I'm really made of people!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

She needs to live for herself, not for everyone else. My mom stayed home with me and I am better for it. However, we did not go to Disney, or even an occasional dinner out. We lived within our means and I think (and this is very biases) that I turned out better than my daycare peers.


37 posted on 12/19/2007 11:37:44 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
EXACTLY! And I just love this . . .

Oh, Miss Nebraska, what am I going to do with you? The old me would've simply ignored your letter (if one considers consuming 33 mint Milano cookies, two Snapples, and a 6.6 ounce bag of those little Cheddar Goldfish "ignoring your letter"), but a funny thing happened on the way to turning 45: I took a deep breath and decided I'm much too old and way too tired to keep nursing my adolescent obsession with being loved. The need to please has at long last atrophied and set me free. So, lady, this one's for you:

What she doesn't realize is that need to be loved is not from the teenage years, but from the womb and it is especially nurtured in the first five years of life. The people pleasing usually comes from a child that is not given that unconditional love by a stable caregiver (we used to call one of them MOM.). But now unfortunately it is all too common to see not just one nanny, but several as many are college students or around that age and grow up to other jobs or move on. I know three children that have had 5 different nannies before the age of twelve and of course the eldest child is Mommy to the youngest, too. So the oldest is really put upon and has not consistency and childhood because they are the loving parent that is the only emotionally and always present consistency for the younger ones. Very sad indeed. The oldest child doesn't get paid though like the nannies instead they get a hand full of expectation, guilt, and lack of honoring that they also have needs.

Also the going to food is a behavior learned very young as well--often in substitution of a Mom nurturance or someone who is subconsciously looking for the original nurturance/comfort of Mom. Mom and food are inexplicable linked from the earliest of days.

This lady has issues needless to say and just does not get it that she is herself acting out/distancing and her child is paying the price. See how she shames her 'people pleaser' as if is it something to be ashamed of? I have noticed a lot of the hard care 'feminist' type man hating, child abandoning types have a lot of shame about the inner part of them that wants acceptance and love. As if it is a bad thing. When often it is just part of how we are wired.

As a fellow FReeper mentioned in an earlier thread a few days ago: modern liberalism is going against our nature and this is why it must be forced onto others whether through violence, fascist type laws and thuggery in the classroom.

Needless to say if this woman came to my office (if I was a therapist and of course I am not--lol) needing therapy she probably would not come back for a second visit! lol.

By the way I will not even comment about the 'boyfriend'--can't seem to make an official commitment to call him her husband that travels all the time. Not to mention towards the end making the statement that women are protecting themselves from men because the men are violent? Whacked! This woman is a walking projection. She is a mess.

51 posted on 12/19/2007 12:37:34 PM PST by GOP Poet
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