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To: cinives
"But seriously - you’re talking to someone who gets $100 a month for child support, and know that I spend over $1800 a month on expenses for the kid. I’ve never complained, even when he bought a diesel F350 dually that had to easily cost $45K, knowing he could only afford it because he wasn’t paying it to the kid. And while I fork out for college, he declines to do more than $100 a month. Sheesh, groceries alone for the kid cost probably $250 a month."

...um to the casual reader, that sure sounds like lots of complaining.
...just saying

225 posted on 12/20/2007 6:00:13 AM PST by woollyone (entropy extirpates evolution and conservation confirms the Creator blessed forever.)
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To: woollyone

I’m going to defend her and say, here....
she’s telling her story.... which means what she may not have voiced in public she’s voicing here.

In front of the child and in front of her ex may be a totally different story.


226 posted on 12/20/2007 6:13:56 AM PST by najida (As God is my witness! The cockatoos ate my breakfast..)
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To: woollyone

just sayin ... seems like pointing out facts is complaining.

must be a gender thing ... :)


227 posted on 12/20/2007 6:37:22 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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A couple of comments in this thread remind me of an incident a few years back...

I was at work and near me were a group of three female coworkers. They were all a bit over middle age and from their comments, it was easy to deduce that they were divorced, living alone, not dating, (medically speaking here...) categorized as morbidly obese, borderline dyke in appearance (though they claimed hetero status) and extremely bitter toward all men. I say this because that was the topic of their conversation, if you’d like to call it that. I suppose it was more of a case of who can tell the best man bashing story contest.

I sat and quietly listened and chuckled to their stories. The bitterness and vitriol was absolutely amazing.

The last story told was by the most angry of them all. She relayed how all men are such pigs. “They can’t even leave the toilet seat down after using the bathroom!”; she snorted. Oh that was a good one and everyone had their turn at men-the-the-bathroom stories. The best were the why can’t men lift the seat before peeing...they get pee on the seat and never wipe it down!!!”

~collective GAAASSSSPPPP~

Not being one to easily keep my mouth closed when hearing such silliness and at the very least to defend my brothers, finally, I just had to chirp into the conversation.

In an attempt to add a bit of levity to the gender murder scene, I very sarcastically asked the leader of the pose; “So, exactly where is it written that it is for the man to maintain he position of the toilet seat? I mean we men feel it is a woman’s DUTY to leave the seat up for us as a sheer matter of courtesy. Do you know how many toilet seat droplets would never soil that throne if women simple left the seat up when they were finished!?!”

Needless to say, the sarcasm hit the target perfectly and each woman’s head exploded in a boiling rage. And to be honest I squirmed with delight, for now they knew how any man felt who had to listen to their man-hater garbage.

The “dialog moved along until the leader of the posse told this horrific story of how she hated her brother. Apparently, she had to share a bathroom with him throughout her childhood and she had been left indelibly scarred from the trauma. As she told it, he would NEVER put the seat back down after peeing.

At which I quickly snarked; “were you courteous enough to leave it up for him?” The veins on her forehead were near ready to burst.

She continued; "And it never failed...I’d get up to use th bathroom in the middle of the night and sit down, only to fall into the toilet because he was such a PIG!”

~collective gasp~...again from the hens

At which I simply had to ask...
“So...for eighteen years, you put up with that?”
“I had to”; she wryly snorted
“I can’t believe that you are willing to publicly admit that in eighteen years you didn’t learn to look to see if the seat was down before sitting on the toilet and are here actually blaming your brother the stupid one for your splashdowns! Your brother WASN'T the stupid one!”

~red-faced silence~...while I LMAO!

The hens didn’t talk to me after that, but they did maintain their bitter hen-coffee-clutch meetings in corners of the building. When I left there, each of them were still single and still just as bitter as the day I first overheard their collective carping..

Face it ladies...more often than not, it is the guy who gets the short end of the deal in divorce and custody courts...almost all the time! Carp about it all you want. Bring all of the "oh I once knew a gal" and "let me tell you my story" examples you like, but the fact remains the same. Guys get screwed more times than not.

With all of that said, i wish NOBODY got screwed...especially the kids.

Somebody much wiser than all once said; "It was not that way from the beginning".

230 posted on 12/20/2007 6:53:58 AM PST by woollyone (entropy extirpates evolution and conservation confirms the Creator blessed forever.)
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