Posted on 12/19/2007 5:34:25 AM PST by 50mm
So taxed2death, the only question I have is MIHOP or LIHOP?
I never said that Ron Paul was a conspiracy nut, but it is a certainty that many of his supporters are.
There was once a guy named Neville Chamberlain who thought like this.
“If this were true, then there was a conspiracy. And you just admitted you believe it.”
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You can’t be serious can you? I think you’ve been reading a bit too much conspiracy stuff. I’m sure OBL had underlings (soldiers) and such at his disposal. Would you at least agree with that? Do you really think OBL did this all by himself?
I thought my analogy was pretty clear? Do you think that there is a human being alive today...let’s just use our own military as an example...ok?....who could come up with a plan....do all the recon needed, have all the pieces to the puzzle fit and execute an attack like that... without help from those under his command?
Do you think we have one General in command who could micromanage an operation of this difficulty? GAWD, I would hope we are that lucky!
You sound like a nut.
Isn't that just like Paul... words over actions.. he denounces truthers in one breath and courts them on Alex Jones' radio program and takes part in Alex Jones' truther documentaries in another breath. Having your cake and eating it to.
You think that OBL recruited, trained, etc., all those people himself??!?! REALLY?!?!
Talk about nutty!
“...there has to be some big conspiracy which was probably cooked up by globalists who were no doubt doing the bidding of the Zionists. Then again it could have all be Halliburtons doing.”
Can’t you get anything right? You left out the neo-cons.
“Who do you think is ultimately responsible for recruiting them and setting it all up?
Thanks for proving my point. There’s a big difference between being the big cheese.....and being the SOLE operator of an attack.
“He is “spot on,” in saying that we have no business waging war to change other people’s cultures.”
You don’t think we changed the ‘culture’ of Japan and Germany following WWII? We certainly do have the right to change the culture of any country who resorts to violence against us if no other reason than to make sure we don’t have to whip their butts a second time.
I’m pretty sure that one of the Paulistinians recently informed me that a neo-con was nothing more than a globalist who supports Israel.
But the Big Cheese is always the #1 target of any military action. If you cut off the head, the body dies. At the same time, if you injur the body enough, it dies as well. You shouldn’t go after one without the other.
How often does he refer to statements like the ‘military/industrial complex’?
Again, let George Washinton's admonitions in his Farewell Address, answer the arguments of the interventionists, in the precise context of the President's address:
George Washington's Answer To President Bush.
William Flax
You flatly brought the question of OBL's "responsibility" for 9/11. The implication, of course, is that "others" were responsible.
Now you state: "Im sure OBL had underlings (soldiers) and such at his disposal. Would you at least agree with that? Do you really think OBL did this all by himself?
Of course not. OBL did not act alone. The 19 hijackers, as well as others within his organization is testament to that. But this in no way removes him from responsibility.
Do you think that there is a human being alive today...lets just use our own military as an example...ok?....who could come up with a plan....do all the recon needed, have all the pieces to the puzzle fit and execute an attack like that... without help from those under his command?
Again, of course not. But in your initial sentence you question his responsibility. And the fact he'd built an organization that carried out 9/11 does in no way mean others beyond that organization were implicit. But it doesn't rule that out, either.
You call me a nut? You're the nut for even getting into this discussion. You opened the door. I closed it on you. I suggest now you back off big time because you've not only dug yourself a hole, you're adding to it.
I see our war in the ME against Islamic fascism as a retaliatory war. We didn't start this. They did. None of the evidence I've seen to date, and I've seen a lot, leads me to any other conclusion. We either go there and destroy them, or we WILL get hit again here.
I don't like the way the war is being fought, but it still needs to be fought. Duncan, IMO, is the best man for the job.
Nope. But the posts have been about a conspiracy beyond OBL's organization. So, which is it: MIHOP or LIHOP?
“You dont think we changed the culture of Japan and Germany following WWII? “
Nukes have a way of coalescing ones thoughts and making one more receptive to another POV.
LOL
“To quote you: “if one is to believe he is responsible for the 911 attacks and if one is to believe what he wrote
You flatly brought the question of OBL’s “responsibility” for 9/11. The implication, of course, is that “others” were responsible. “
Nonsense. Splitting hairs. You play a part in an attack you are culpable. No one man is an army. No one acted alone.
“I suggest now you back off big time because you’ve not only dug yourself a hole, you’re adding to it.”
Riiiiiiiighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhht.
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