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Locavore, Get Your Gun
NY Times ^ | December 14, 2007 | STEVEN RINELLA

Posted on 12/18/2007 12:32:46 AM PST by neverdem

EVERY year, 15 million licensed hunters head into America’s forests and fields in search of wild game. In New York State alone, roughly half a million hunters harvest around 190,000 deer in the fall deer hunting season — that’s close to eight million pounds of venison. In the traditional vernacular, we’d call that “game meat.” But, in keeping with the times, it might be better to relabel it as free-range, grass-fed, organic, locally produced, locally harvested, sustainable, native, low-stress, low-impact, humanely slaughtered meat.

That string of adjectives has been popularized in recent years by the...

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Nowadays, however, with Vice President Dick Cheney blasting a donor in the face while shooting pen-raised quail, and the former rock star Ted Nugent extolling his “whack ’em and stack ’em” hunting ethos, American hunters do not have a very lofty pedestal from which to defend their interests. We could gain a great deal by refocusing the debate onto our relationship with a sustainable, healthful food supply.

There’s an obvious place to start: Even most nonhunters are aware of the deer overabundance in suburban areas. Annually, whitetail deer cause $250 million in residential landscaping damage; deer-vehicle collisions injure 29,000 people and kill 1.5 million deer; and 13,000 Americans contract Lyme disease.

State and federal wildlife management agencies contend that public hunting is the only cost-effective long-term management strategy. Yet they are forced to experiment with costly deer-control measures like high-wire fencing (it can cost $10,000 to $15,000 per mile), infertility drugs ($550 per deer), police sharpshooters ($100 to $250 per deer)and trap-and-euthanize operations ($150 to $500 per deer).

Why? Invariably, the answer comes down to a handful of factors: landowner aesthetics, liability concerns, social attitudes about guns, firearm-discharge restrictions and states’ public-relations concerns. Or, in short, because of tensions between hunters and the public...

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This is in the NY Times? Indeed, as Professor Erlbach, a physics professor at CCNY would say. BTW, Lyme disease infects more than a dozen vertebrate species.
1 posted on 12/18/2007 12:32:47 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I didn’t read the whole article. Do they mention deer tastes like dirt and is tough as nails?


2 posted on 12/18/2007 12:39:57 AM PST by Soliton (Freddie T is the one for me! (c))
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To: Soliton
I didn’t read the whole article. Do they mention deer tastes like dirt and is tough as nails?

Who did the cooking? I didn't have a problem.

3 posted on 12/18/2007 12:45:38 AM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: Soliton

Once you get past the backstrap, deer is only good for sausage. Moose on the other hand, was one of God’s tastiest creations. I would rather hit a deer than a moose though...


5 posted on 12/18/2007 12:55:18 AM PST by Bastiat_Fan
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To: neverdem

So they will build a fence for deer but won’t put a fence on our southern border.... wonder what costs more?

Bambi or Illegals?

Deer meat is not that great but with the right cook it makes good jerky or roast. Moose is really good eating!

We have all gotten spoiled with the quality of meat we enjoy today. I wonder how many pounds of pure fat and gristle the settlers ate in a year?


6 posted on 12/18/2007 12:59:39 AM PST by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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To: neverdem

I was at a Christmas party a week ago and the subject of who got a deer this year. I said I didn’t go because I believe that if you kill something you should eat it.

A guy’s wife said, “Eric (her husband)has a great recipe for deer steaks”. When I bumped into Eric later, I asked about his recipe because I still had half a doe from the previous year. Eric first marinates the steaks in a spicy cajun sauce for a couple of hours, then adds a spice rub before cooking it in a skillet with a pile of mushrooms and onions for as long as it takes to get tender. Then he puts a piece of cheese on it. True story.

I have had wonderful farm-raised venison, but the wild stuff isn’t as good as rabit or squirrel. I think it is complicated by how processors butcher the deer. Steaks too thin. Ground meat too lean. The sausage is good, but its half pork fat and loaded with spices.


7 posted on 12/18/2007 1:03:40 AM PST by Soliton (Freddie T is the one for me! (c))
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To: neverdem

Yup. Move to the suburbs and plant deer food.


8 posted on 12/18/2007 1:05:15 AM PST by Does so (...against all enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign...)
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To: Yehuda
What moron.

You?

9 posted on 12/18/2007 1:19:24 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Soliton; neverdem
Do they mention deer tastes like dirt and is tough as nails?

I have had wonderful farm-raised venison, but the wild stuff isn’t as good as rabit or squirrel.

These are crazy statements. The taste of venison varies based on so many factors, from diet to proper dressing to temperature at which it hung.

I think it is complicated by how processors butcher the deer. Steaks too thin. Ground meat too lean. The sausage is good, but its half pork fat and loaded with spices.

So what you're saying is that a particular processor's procedures are the problem, not venison, per se?

10 posted on 12/18/2007 1:24:21 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Bastiat_Fan

“I would rather hit a deer than a moose though...”

I’ talking food and you’re talking sex. ;-)


12 posted on 12/18/2007 1:31:00 AM PST by Soliton (Freddie T is the one for me! (c))
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So they will build a fence for deer but won’t put a fence on our southern border....

Heck, they build 'em for turtles!

Arkansas

Florida

Michigan

13 posted on 12/18/2007 1:31:08 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring
These are crazy statements

I live in pennsylvania. Our deer live on some of the best corn in the country. I have eaten deer from dozens of processors. my father-in-laws deer camp gets 8 to 12 deer a year. I am flooded with free deer. Man, give me a way to cook the stuff if you are offended.

14 posted on 12/18/2007 1:34:51 AM PST by Soliton (Freddie T is the one for me! (c))
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To: Soliton

“Do they mention deer tastes like dirt and is tough as nails?”

Obviously what you had was not butchered, bled or cooked properly.


15 posted on 12/18/2007 2:05:10 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Soliton

lol, didn’t see that comment coming. I like it.


16 posted on 12/18/2007 2:36:34 AM PST by Bastiat_Fan
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To: Bastiat_Fan
I would rather hit a deer than a moose though...

How many vehicles do you go through every season?

17 posted on 12/18/2007 2:58:21 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: metesky

lol, I’ve never hit either, but the size difference between them is immense. You can at least stick s brush guard on you truck to protect it from deer, hitting a moose at 30mph will pretty much destroy your rig, if not kill you.


18 posted on 12/18/2007 3:28:38 AM PST by Bastiat_Fan
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To: Soliton

How do you know what dirt taste like?

come over for a charcoal grilled Bambi steak sometime...it will turn your head around.

PS you cant cook it like beef...it is way too lean and will dry and be puck-like. the other caveat is you MUST cut out anything that looks like fat..it is not...it is tallow and taste like wax in your mouth.

the pre-preparation and the preparation itself is critical to tasty/tender venison.....

but it can be done and it is GREAT to eat when properly prepared.


19 posted on 12/18/2007 3:33:22 AM PST by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: neverdem; Soliton
Ahhh, a large deer haunch wrapped in bacon strips, add a few thin onion slices, wrap in tin foil, put on a metal grate and slow cook over hardwood coals.

Unwrap, thinly slice and enjoy on the bread of your choice - while drinking a cold brew of course.

Don’t get no better than that.

20 posted on 12/18/2007 3:46:15 AM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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