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White House told to detail Christian leader visits
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 12/17/07 | Randall Mikkelsen

Posted on 12/17/2007 3:37:58 PM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. judge ordered the Secret Service on Monday to disclose records of visits by nine prominent conservative Christian leaders to the White House and Vice President Dick Cheney's residence.

The ruling, in response to a legal watchdog group's suit, could shed light on the influence leaders like James Dobson of Focus on the Family have had on President George W. Bush's administration. It may also affect legal efforts to force the release of visiting records of convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff and other similar cases.

"We think that these conservative Christian leaders have had a very big impact," said Executive Director Melanie Sloan of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, which filed the case.

"The White House doesn't want to talk about how much influence these leaders have, and we want to talk about how much they do have," she said.

Dobson is one of the most influential opinion leaders among conservative Christians who are at the heart of Bush's political base.

Others whose visiting records were sought included Family Research Council president Tony Perkins, Gary Bauer, who unsuccessfully sought the 2000 Republican presidential nomination, and Moral Majority co-founder Jerry Falwell, who died in last May.

U.S. District Court Judge Royce Lamberth rejected as "misguided" the Secret Service's arguments that disclosing the records would reveal confidential policy deliberations.

The Secret Service is responsible for presidential security and clears visitors for entry to the White House and Cheney's official residence. It also argued that the records were not under its control but were protected presidential documents.

Lamberth wrote: "The most that can be said is the Secret Service acts as if the White House has legal control over these records. Upon closer inspection, however, even this proposition seems suspect."

The White House has also fought against releasing Abramoff's visiting records. Lambeth's ruling means they cannot be destroyed without permission of the national archivist, Sloan said.

She said she expected the administration to fight the ruling, but if it survives it could mean White House visits will be considered public records.

Their disclosure would then be open to challenge only on a case-by-case basis, for reasons such as state secrecy or attorney-client privilege.

Justice Department spokesman Charles Miller said the agency was reviewing the ruling but had not decided whether to appeal.


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"We think that these conservative Christian leaders have had a very big impact," said Executive Director Melanie Sloan of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, which filed the case.

"The White House doesn't want to talk about how much influence these leaders have, and we want to talk about how much they do have," she said.

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well Melanie, if they have had anywhere near the impact that MoveOn and CodePink have in the dem party the last few years.. Oh, never mind.

1 posted on 12/17/2007 3:37:59 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
From 1996...

Use of crack, hallucinogens hung up White House staff

But Christians they gotta problem with...

2 posted on 12/17/2007 3:40:40 PM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: NormsRevenge

I’d be willing to bet none of them have had the impact of move on or code pink. Not to metion Soro’s, who finds all these froups and most of the Democrats. He has been referred to as The Party.


3 posted on 12/17/2007 3:43:43 PM PST by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: mewzilla; Alamo-Girl
And from Alamo-Girl's invaluable website...

DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON SECTION: THE STORY OF A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE SUBSECTION: DRUGS Revised 8/20/99

4 posted on 12/17/2007 3:43:49 PM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: NormsRevenge
What a crock of Bravo Sierra. Chrsitain leaders have visited every US President, including the bent one.

This is just mnore of the left's attempt to do anything possible to find anything, anything at all that they perceive they can use to discredit BUsh.

...but this dog wont hunt.

5 posted on 12/17/2007 3:45:01 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: mewzilla; Alamo-Girl
And then there's....

After Chelsea photo request, DFU helps Hillary with request of prostitution king, Ng Lap Seng

But by all means, let's get our knickers in a knot about Christians...

SNORT.

6 posted on 12/17/2007 3:45:35 PM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: NormsRevenge
CREW’s Board Members Include Mark Penn, President Clinton’s Former Pollster; Daniel Berger, A Trial Lawyer From Philadelphia And A Clinton Fundraiser; And Louis Mayberg, The President Of A Mutual Fund Company.

http://tinyurl.com/yurfu6

7 posted on 12/17/2007 3:47:00 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: NormsRevenge

Who the heck cares?

This is ridiculous. Don’t these people have anything better to do?


8 posted on 12/17/2007 3:47:04 PM PST by Shelayne (...)
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To: NormsRevenge
Image hosted by Photobucket.com go pound sand you miserable wretched rats you...
9 posted on 12/17/2007 3:49:50 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: Shelayne
More people who got into the White House....

Clinton Donor Scandal Widens

Don’t these people have anything better to do?

In light of the above, clearly not.

10 posted on 12/17/2007 3:50:29 PM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: NormsRevenge

“We think that these conservative Christian leaders have had a very big impact,” said Executive Director Melanie Sloan

She should only hope so.


11 posted on 12/17/2007 3:50:47 PM PST by Melinda
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To: mewzilla; NormsRevenge; Bahbah; Lancey Howard; LUV W; silent_jonny; gpapa; potlatch; devolve; ...

Sickening Soros sycophant ...

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“We think that these conservative Christian leaders have had a very big impact,” said Executive Director Melanie Sloan of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, which filed the case.

“The White House doesn’t want to talk about how much influence these leaders have, and we want to talk about how much they do have,” she said.

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((((because we fear people who believe in
God and try to live a virtuous life)))

Ya gotta laugh.

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http://www.citizensforethics.org/about/staff

CREW Staff

Melanie Sloan, Executive Director

Melanie Sloan serves as CREW’s Executive Director. Prior to starting CREW, she served as an Assistant United States Attorney in the District of Columbia where, from 1998-2003, she successfully tried cases before dozens of judges and juries. Before becoming a prosecutor, Ms. Sloan served as Minority Counsel for the U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary Committee, working for Ranking Member John Conyers (D-MI) and specializing in criminal justice issues.

In 1994, Ms. Sloan served as Counsel for the Crime Subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee, chaired by then-Representative Charles Schumer (D-NY). There, she drafted portions of the 1994 Crime Bill, including the Violence Against Women Act. In 1993, Ms. Sloan served as Nominations Counsel to the Senate Judiciary Committee, under then-Chairman, Senator Joe Biden (D-DE).

Prior to serving in Congress, she was an associate at Howrey and Simon in Washington, D.C. and at Sonnenschein, Nath and Rosenthal in Los Angeles, California. Ms. Sloan received her B.A. and J.D. from the University of Chicago and has published in the Yale Law and Policy Review, Legal Times, The Washington Post, and the San Diego Union-Tribune.

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About CREW

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington uses high-impact legal actions to target government officials who sacrifice the common good to special interests.

LOL...


12 posted on 12/17/2007 3:50:50 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: NormsRevenge

How many times did the Reverends Jackson and Sharpston “counsel” Billy C.?


13 posted on 12/17/2007 3:53:48 PM PST by lonestar
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To: NormsRevenge

They do realize that President Bush leaves office in 13 months, don’t they?


14 posted on 12/17/2007 3:53:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: NormsRevenge

Can you imagine the firestorm if someone tried to profile the visits and “influence” by Jews to the White House? After all, it has been alleged over the years that Jews have had an undue influence...

Please understand: I’m for all the Jewish influence we can get; I find it very sound and useful. However, I simply want to point out how ludicrous this canard is.


15 posted on 12/17/2007 3:54:03 PM PST by Migraine (...diversity is great... until it happens to YOU...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They do realize that President Bush leaves office in 13 months, don’t they?


apparently not. ;-)


16 posted on 12/17/2007 3:55:48 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

Didn’t Monica Lewinski visit Clinton in the WH with pizza hidden in her vagina? Did a judge order release of those records? No.


17 posted on 12/17/2007 3:56:14 PM PST by Rudder
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To: Rudder

probably big enough that she could have. LOL


18 posted on 12/17/2007 3:58:55 PM PST by sappy
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To: NormsRevenge

CREW sounds like ANTI-CHRISTIANS....hmmmmm....are they??? What’s their NAMES??? Are they all ACLU members also??


19 posted on 12/17/2007 4:01:05 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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CREW sounds like ANTI-CHRISTIANS....hmmmmm....are they??? What’s their NAMES??? Are they all ACLU members also??


20 posted on 12/17/2007 4:01:12 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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