Deny Jesus is God???? Um, have you bothered reading what I have wrote?
Jesus is God, and in his time on this planet as recorded in the bible, he never ministered to more than about 5,000 persons. Yet, you believe some non denominational pastor can effectively educated and shepherd 10,000 a week?
God incarnate himself did not attempt this, yet I am to believe you when you claim this is the way the truth and the light?
You continue to deny that preaching is teaching. This is a fundamentally flawed and failed view. Jesus could easily have quoted existing scriptures instead of teaching his word, yet he chose to teach, not mearly parrot. When challenged on the Jewish texts he not only offered them, but also their intent and meaning.
You don’t have a pastor with 10,000 sheep, you have a CEO, and an accounts receivable. If your pastor doesn’t know you or your children or your spouse on sight, after attending a church for any length of time, you don’t have a pastor, you have a performer.
I find it interesting that you quote Chorinthians I, especially considering how much the focus is not to pay attention to the flamboyantness of the voice...... A good bit of irony in that one if you asked me. Megachurches are all about the flamboyance of the delivery, at least by their pastors and the dog and pony show delivered weekly... not the knowlege and care and involvment that guides the flock to Christ.
Matthew 14: 21 "And they that had eaten were about five thousand men, beside women and children."
It was more than 5,000.
Yet, you believe some non denominational pastor can effectively educated and shepherd 10,000 a week?
Certainly, because it is the Holy Spirit that does so through human beings or directly in the believer. Do you not believe that all believers are temples of the Holy Spirit, or is it that you believe the Holy Spirit is incapable of handling 10,000 people at once?
God incarnate himself did not attempt this, yet I am to believe you when you claim this is the way the truth and the light?
Fact is, we don't know how many people were there because only the men were counted. It could have been more than 10,000. Either way, it is sad you think Jesus would not have been capable of handling 10,000 people at once.
You continue to deny that preaching is teaching.
What I'm saying is biblical. Read 1 Corinthians 14 on the spiritual gifts. They are two separate gifts.
This is a fundamentally flawed and failed view.
The biblical view is fundamentally flawed and failed? Interesting.
Jesus could easily have quoted existing scriptures instead of teaching his word, yet he chose to teach, not mearly parrot.
Uh huh. What does that have to do with the fact that preaching and teaching are separate spiritual gifts?
You don’t have a pastor with 10,000 sheep, you have a CEO, and an accounts receivable.
Your opinion. Nothing in the bible supports that claim.
I find it interesting that you quote Chorinthians I, especially considering how much the focus is not to pay attention to the flamboyantness of the voice
Quote the verse from 1 Corinthians where it mentions flamboyantness of voice.
Megachurches are all about the flamboyance of the delivery
How many megachurches have you attended and for how long at each one to make this judgment?
Jesus had disciples to help him minister to his flock. Jesus didn’t directly “shepherd” 5,000 people — he delegated some of that responsibility to his disciples.
Similarly, in a large church, the senior pastor delegates/shares pastoral authority over those in his congregation.
It works now just the way it worked in Jesus’ day.