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Global ocean temperatures "plunge"
from data gathered by the National Climatic Data Center ^ | 12/17/07 | Dangus

Posted on 12/17/2007 11:43:27 AM PST by dangus

In 2000, when scientists declared that the Earth's temperature was rising, much anxiety ensued, even though the increase was only half of a degree over sixty years. In just the past year, however, the Earth's temperature has reversed, yielding back one-half of that increase.

The past month's (November's) global oceanic data from the National Climatic Data Center has now been released, and the Earth's oceans surface is .2548 degrees warmer than the 1880-2007 average. That's down from .5250 last year and .5597 roughly a decade ago.

There have been drops of roughly a couple tenths of a degree previously, in spite of the general warming trend. But such drops, blamed on "La Ninas," have occured immediately following temperature spikes. What makes this current La Nina unusual is that the current temperature drop follows an imperceptibly small temperature spike.

As a result, the cold snap is pulling down even the six-year running average of temperatures.

This does not mean that the warming trend has necessarily reversed itself; there have, indeed been declines in running averages even longer than that during this decline. In fact, a cooling trend lasted from the 1940s through the 1970s.

However, unable to justify drastic temperatures with fears of the temperature rising a single degree or less next century, the global-warming doomsday-preachers have been asserting that the surge in global warming in the late 1990s indicated an acceleration of global warming.

The notion of such an acceleration seems difficult to reconcile with the new data: The world's oceans were warmer during warm spells of the 1940s.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalcooling; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; globalwarmingisbs
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To: Eternal_Bear

Actually, the arctic ice cap is freezing again, it’s already reached the amount of ice it should have in February.

Rush mentioned this today on his show and the article is around here somewhere???

I call BS on Glowbull Climate Warming Change.

That huge thermonukular hydrogen bomb thingy in the sky is all I need to know about warming and cooling.


141 posted on 12/17/2007 3:08:22 PM PST by GRRRRR (Merry Christmas to US All...)
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To: gondramB

It’s not as easy as you might think. You need to make your measurements relative to a specific measure... How do you keep your measuring stick still? The truth is there is only one measurer of global temperature... and there is an 800-year lag. The oceans expanding today have as much to do with the little ice age as they do with current temperatures.


142 posted on 12/17/2007 3:11:01 PM PST by dangus
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To: edcoil
>>>”what will algore sell for cooling? Ice cubes?”>>

If we are going to have global cooling won’t we all have ice cubes?

(It is so confusing, Ditter is all in a dither)

143 posted on 12/17/2007 3:14:00 PM PST by Ditter
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To: gondramB
About 20 centimeters (or 8 inches) over the last 100 years.

OK. So why should we care? And what does this have to do with the so-called "global warming" story? I am surmising that seas and oceans rise and fall over the eons just as temps rise and fall. So?

144 posted on 12/17/2007 3:14:22 PM PST by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: mc5cents
I have seen the makeup of our atmosphere and co2 is but a small portion. Do you think that putting a little bit more into the mix makes that much difference to our temperature here on earth. I think the sun would beg to disagree.

I recently read that 97% of all greenhouse gasses is simply water vapor. The other 3% is composed mainly of naturally occurring gasses, and man made CO2 comprises only a tiny fraction of one percent of that 3 percent. It seems highly unlikely to me that such a relatively minuscule percentage of all greenhouse gas could be responsible for significantly altering the temperature of the entire planet.

But if it does alter it so be it, I don't see how we can afford to go back to living at a stone age existence level just because we are losing a few hundred square miles of beach frontage to a 7 inch rise in the global sea level every century or two.

145 posted on 12/17/2007 3:18:07 PM PST by epow
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To: dangus
>>It’s not as easy as you might think. You need to make your measurements relative to a specific measure... How do you keep your measuring stick still? The truth is there is only one measurer of global temperature... and there is an 800-year lag. The oceans expanding today have as much to do with the little ice age as they do with current temperatures.<,



BTW, how can you be excited about the new data if you think that the only measure lags by 800 years? There have ways of averaging out those variations. work from the national snow and ice data center suggests about half of the global sea level rise is from net ice melt.

146 posted on 12/17/2007 3:22:03 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: mc5cents
>>About 20 centimeters (or 8 inches) over the last 100 years. -------- OK. So why should we care? And what does this have to do with the so-called "global warming" story? I am surmising that seas and oceans rise and fall over the eons just as temps rise and fall. So?<<

Most estimates are for 2-3 feet for next hundred years - that is enough to cause a need for planning for low lying areas. But nothing like the emergency Al Gore would have us believe.

For example if the worst estimates are true these are the effected areas of the Southern coast over 100 years. So there is time to study and plan. Like they have done in the Netherlands with previous rises.

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147 posted on 12/17/2007 3:26:23 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: epow

The land is rising in some places and sinking in others. If you measure with tide gages where it is sinking, then the sea level appears to be rising.


148 posted on 12/17/2007 3:37:01 PM PST by expatpat
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To: epow
But if it does alter it so be it, I don't see how we can afford to go back to living at a stone age existence level just because we are losing a few hundred square miles of beach frontage to a 7 inch rise in the global sea level every century or two.

Nor do I. I am concerned that too many people in positions of influence and power are taking it WAY to seriously. It may be something to keep an eye on but to get into a state of apoplexy as Algore has become is insane. But I repeat myself. :-))

149 posted on 12/17/2007 3:41:18 PM PST by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: mc5cents
The sea level is important because AlGore has claimed that it is going to rise huge distances (60 ft) because of melting of the ice sheets sitting on Greenland and Antarctica. Of course, AlGore is a proven liar (Internet, Love Story, etc.) and even the IPCC doesn't make such claims.
150 posted on 12/17/2007 3:45:59 PM PST by expatpat
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To: epow

That’s right. We humans, like the other living creatures and plants on the planet have to adapt to the various changes that Mother Nature provides. Those who think that polar bears can’t move a few miles further north each year if the temperatures slowly rises are either very stupid or deceitful.


151 posted on 12/17/2007 3:48:56 PM PST by expatpat
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To: mc5cents; gondramB; expatpat

It’s a moneymaking scam!


152 posted on 12/17/2007 3:50:40 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: rhinohunter

I WANT A TRIP TO BALI RIGHT NOW!!!


153 posted on 12/17/2007 3:52:12 PM PST by bvw
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To: epow

It’s possible that the seas were higher due to the warmer temps which prevailed prior to the Roman-era cooling, but there’s also plenty of quakes which have caused subsidence and sudden rises. The connection between quakes and tsunamis was understood by the time of Thucydides at the latest, and of course, Poseidon’s nickname was “Earthshaker”. :’)


154 posted on 12/17/2007 3:59:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, December 10, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: gondramB

Sea levels are governed by the temperature of the entire ocean. I was referring to Sea Surface Temperatures.


155 posted on 12/17/2007 4:01:08 PM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

Bump


156 posted on 12/17/2007 4:18:46 PM PST by The Mayor ( A man's heart plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps.—Proverbs 16:9)
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To: NeoCaveman

OK everyone... on 3... stop breathing that deadly CO2.


157 posted on 12/17/2007 4:20:27 PM PST by MooseMan (Sarcasm included at no additional charge)
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To: longtermmemmory
The drop in ocean temp is my fault.

I farted

158 posted on 12/17/2007 4:25:49 PM PST by MooseMan (Sarcasm included at no additional charge)
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To: dangus

They use quartz crystal thermometers . The frequency of oscillation is extremely temperature sensitive.


159 posted on 12/17/2007 4:35:37 PM PST by BillM
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To: brownsfan
we are insignificant and can’t change what the earth is doing ============== Never give up. My friends and I are throwing ice cubes into the ocean daily. If everyone in the world did it we could solve this thing once and for all.
160 posted on 12/17/2007 4:40:37 PM PST by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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