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1 posted on 12/17/2007 8:37:44 AM PST by Ken H
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Like the man in Mississippi this one will most likely be in jail for life. It must be total stupidity for a SWAT team to raid a house when they have not even look to see if it is the correct house or if the person who turned them on to this house was a liar.

Just like the Nazi and Communist. They should be fired immediately. And brought to court for felon breaking and entering.

38 posted on 12/17/2007 9:07:58 AM PST by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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I was just laughing the other night when I read in a local newspaper where the small police department just received a (I forgot the correct name of it) bascially an Army tank.

I’m serious, a tank.

A few years ago the SWAT team in Franklin TN kicked in the door (a wrong address) in the middle of the night, and when the homeowner grabbed his gun they shot him dead. This is happening too frequently.

If these guys want to play Army why don’t we send them down to protect the US/Mexican border with all their equipment, especially considering the Border Patrol is always complaining about not having enough money/equipment.


46 posted on 12/17/2007 9:16:07 AM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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If the authorities are really serious about ending junk like this, here are some ideas:

1) Demilitarise the police except for very specific, legally-defined circumstances. We don't need cops running around with body armour and automatic weapons pretending like they're soldiers while they kick in doors of private dwellings.

2) Make the cops actually abide by the Constitution. Get a warrant, and serve the warrant. Don't just bust down doors on a bogus "warrantless entry" action.

3) Corroborate informant information with evidence from other sources. We don't know that's what happened here, but it's often the case that police act on "tips" from people with grudges against the victim, and the cops don't check into it since they're hoping to score a big drug bust so they can get that new department "anti-drug boat" just in time for summer.

48 posted on 12/17/2007 9:22:16 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Hi, My name is Mitt, and I invented the fifty dollar abortion!")
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Militarized “Law Enforcement*” has become the “standing army” our Founders feared.

*a phrase that is so common it has lost its Orwellian essence.


49 posted on 12/17/2007 9:23:58 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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The only way the jackboots will even consider changing their paramilitary tactics is if a few of their spec-ops wannabes meet an ugly end. ...and it’s bound to happen sooner or later. Oh yeah, and if enough PDs are successfully sued. I hope Vang is consulting an attorney right now.


50 posted on 12/17/2007 9:23:59 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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The homeowner, who does not speak English, told his brother that he thought the police were the "bad guys.."

Sadly, he was right!

55 posted on 12/17/2007 9:33:41 AM PST by FroedrickVonFreepenstein
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Lt. Amelia Huffman, head of the homicide unit

That could be your problem right there.

60 posted on 12/17/2007 9:43:13 AM PST by SamuraiScot
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This guy didn’t speak English and didn’t recognize police uniforms? Hmmmmmm. . .


64 posted on 12/17/2007 9:53:14 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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Why does every two bit law agency feel a need for a swat team?
Hell every level of govt it seems, even the D.oO.T. has one and they constantly get it wrong.


67 posted on 12/17/2007 9:59:34 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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Garcia told KMSP that police grabbed the family's children and shielded them during the incident.

Shielded the children, or shielded themselves using the children?

Seriously, are they trying to make the cops look like heroes in the midst of this? I may be a bit simple-minded here, but I think there wouldn't be a need to shield kids if you didn't break into their homes with guns drawn in the first place. It's like the arsonist firefighter who wants credit for putting out the fires that he set.

73 posted on 12/17/2007 10:12:24 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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If an innocent person opens fire on an intruder breaking into his house, he remains innocent even if it’s the police breaking and entering into the WRONG house. If an intruder is shot and killed, the innocent person REMAINS innocent. If the innocent person is killed, the intruder is totally and completely responsible for the death.


78 posted on 12/17/2007 10:30:08 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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He fired and hit two police officers, ...

Good shooting.

Nice job by the SWAT team to make sure the entire family survived.

The folks who ordered them in screwed up.

81 posted on 12/17/2007 10:45:44 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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“Garcia told KMSP that police grabbed the family’s children and shielded them during the incident.”

Sure.


84 posted on 12/17/2007 10:55:21 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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This is going to continue until qualified immunity goes away. Police who screw up must be made to pay personally.


103 posted on 12/17/2007 2:29:28 PM PST by VRing (Happiness is a perfect sling bruise.)
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And the stupidity continues....


120 posted on 12/17/2007 5:47:42 PM PST by StnCldTruth (A gun in your hand is better than a cop on the phone !!!!!)
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To: Ken H; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...
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123 posted on 12/17/2007 6:37:35 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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This is laid at the door of the USSC. They need to rule these raids unconstitutional (and they have not to this point they have protected them) unless someones life is in danger. No other reason to raid a home. I do not care if a drug dealer get away. They can arrest these people at another time. I do not want anymore WACO’S. This really makes me angry and fearful. It happen way to often.


124 posted on 12/17/2007 7:55:04 PM PST by therut
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