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To: Libloather
While an incandescent lasts about seven months, a fluorescent burns six times longer.

I've been using these things for a while, and this just plain is a lie. If they are used in a closed fixture, then their life is LESS than an incandescent because they do not tolerate heat. If they are used BASE UP even in an open fixture, then their life is a bit more than an incandescent - again because of heat issues. ONLY if they are used base down in an open fixture is their life anywhere close to the six times incandescent as advertised, and a significant percentage of them develop a loud obnoxious 60 herz hum partway through their life, and although they still give off light, if the noise bothers you, then you have to replace them. Another problem is that they dim considerably over their life. At the end of their life I'd estimate that they're putting out about 70% 75% of the light that they do when they're new. Incandescents do this too, but it doesn't seem to be as much. The final thing is that they frequently fail by catching fire inside the base. I've come in to a room with one of the out and a burnt insulation stench and a faint haze of smoke in the air on more than one occasion.

King George II is a vast disappointment (and I had low expectations)

18 posted on 12/17/2007 5:53:09 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: from occupied ga

We do composite repair on sailplanes and this time of year we often use incandescent bulbs to provide spot heat when we do small repairs. It’s way cheaper than heating the whole shop to 80F. I also use a 100W light bulb in my paint cabinet to keep the paint and resins at workable temps, a couple of light bulbs in the bathroom in the hangar and one in my well pump house to keep the pipes from freezing. Flourescents just won’t work in these applications......


23 posted on 12/17/2007 5:59:01 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Debates? Those weren't no stinkin' debates!)
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To: from occupied ga
King George II is a vast disappointment (and I had low expectations)

Right there with you.

27 posted on 12/17/2007 6:02:57 AM PST by newzjunkey (Huckabee, Rudy, Romney: 3 red herrings, 3 easy pickings for Dems in '08.)
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To: from occupied ga
I have been using florescent bulbs since they first came on the market and I find none of what you say to be true. Most of mine have lasted for years. I have them inside and out, up side down, in lamps and in closed fixtures and I am very pleased with the longevity and the light quality.
28 posted on 12/17/2007 6:07:07 AM PST by Ditter
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To: from occupied ga
If they are used BASE UP even in an open fixture, then their life is a bit more than an incandescent - again because of heat issues. ONLY if they are used base down in an open fixture is their life anywhere close to the six times incandescent as advertised

Ironically, many of them are designed to run base-up -- they NEED the heat in order to run efficiently. (Unless you're exciting them with a very high voltage "instant-on" ballast, the startup process is more than a bit convoluted. The heaters at each end need to warm up enough to kick off enough electrons to allow "the spark" to traverse from one electrode to the other -- and then, the heat of operation is supposed to provide enough energy (heat) to maintain the spark (the white coating on the glass "fluoresces" and converts the UV light from the spark discharge to visible light).

Likewise, outdoor/cold-weather operation is often problematic.

85 posted on 12/17/2007 6:50:18 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: from occupied ga
I've been using these things for a while, and this just plain is a lie.

I bought a G.E. three pack just to try them. Right on the package it states, "lasts 5 years", I'm keeping the package and the receipt.

It also states right on the package, "26 watt (picture of their bulb) = 100 watt (picture of regular bulb)" I am no dummy and know that 26 does not equal 100, but still wanted to try them. and my belief was affirmed - 26 does not equal 100.

105 posted on 12/17/2007 7:55:36 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: from occupied ga

Please read the posting by occupied ga.
My experience:
The bulbs don’t tolerate heat or cold. They burn out very fast when used outside or in certain fixtures where their heat doesn’t dissipate. When they burn out, they literally burn out, with a fizz, a pop, a spark, and smoke. Doesn’t sound very safe to me.
I have some now which look real nice - almost like normal bulbs. But they are real dim when you first turn them on, especially when the temperature in the room is below 62. They take about 30 seconds to reach a useable brightness.
I know what’s going to happen. The powerful, know-it-all government will force us to switch. This is the same government which gave us toilets which need to be flushed 6 times before they do what toilets are supposed to do. The same government which gave us “airport security”.


110 posted on 12/17/2007 5:21:32 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (and Bush is no help)
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To: from occupied ga
I replaced almost all the bulbs in my house with cfl's nearly two years ago. I bought the GE brand because of its whiter, more natural light. I have not had ANY problems with them - no buzzing, delays, premature burnouts. Nothing. And my family is HARD on them - flipping lights on and off repeatedly, etc. I have them in lamps, overhead fixtures and in my bathroom vanity. They burn in all positions. So far, I've had one burn out (in the vanity) and replaced it last month. None of the others have burned out yet.

I've been very happy with them.
140 posted on 12/18/2007 2:21:30 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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