Posted on 12/14/2007 7:25:59 AM PST by Between the Lines
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Also, Acts 26:28 and 1 Peter 4:16.
The sale of Nativity scenes with a wall running through the middle to symbolize Israel’s security barrier borders on anti-Semitism, Jewish groups are saying.
But isn’t the article playing to the idea that the political definition of ‘anti-semitic’ is something that the Jews don’t like? Using a creche may be offensive to religious sensibilities of Christians, it may be wrong to appropriate it for political purposes, but it’s hardly an anti-semitic offense to Jews who don’t believe in the incarnation in the first place.
Calling all Bereans! On Word!
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"I stand corrected, Thank You. I am talking about those who proclaim to be Christian and arent at all."
Heehee! RaceBannon is an Olde FReeper and knows his Bible. He's been around since dirt.
It's the wider conflict and the Arab's decades long bid to deligitimize the Jewish people and Israel in the eyes of anyone they can. This hatred is either overt and visible; sometimes sullen and passive aggressiveas in this case. It has little to do with the incarnation.
The Jewish people are quite familiar with this, thus they and their friends condemn it quickly.
...”but it’s hardly an anti-semitic offense to Jews who don’t believe in the incarnation in the first place.”
What about being an offense to those Jews who do?
I'm not sure about the anti-Semitism of it, but I do think its a thinly veiled effort to inspire hatred toward Jews. The inescapable implication is that Jews are preventing Christians from worshiping their Lord with their infernal wall. Of course, Jews are just trying to protect themselves from getting blown up, so the thing is a vicious lie. I think Jews and all decent thinking folks, including the author are entitled to care.
Why is a piece of protest art about the barriers economic effect on Bethlehem generating such hysterical reactions?
Nonsense on stilts. I always like to give a poster like you the benefit of the doubt: there's two possibilities: 1) ignorance 2) malice. Without one of these explanations, there is no other reason for a post so completely devoid of factual accuracy. So, I'll just put it down to ignorance and suggest you study the case before hitting that "post" button on your next comment.
Here's the facts. Tourists going to Bethlehem are not prevented at all by the "barrier". Going out of the protected area is simply not a problem. Innocent bystanders suffer because of one thing: arab terrorism. If they stopped, there would be no need for a "barrier" and no sufferring innocent bystanders.
I can't imagine what group someone calling him/herself "deathmonger" belongs to, but if your group is the subject of vicious propoganda calling itself art and the stakes are whether your family and friends get blown up, you might just get a little hysterical yourself, even if you are a "deathmonger".
Jews for Jesus?
To say that a display with a wall is tantamount to saying Jews killed Christ is pushing that canard way too far. True friends of Israel can make that distinction. In this case, there is nothing ‘anti-semitic’ in the display. It’s not even anti-zionist. It is not even anti the state of Israel. It is simply against a policy of the Israeli government.
BTW Are you saying that the State of Israel is above ANY criticism of its policies? There is no state that is so perfect.
Jesus was enthusiatically handed over to the Romans for crucifixion by the Jewish authorities. I'm not sure why we are supposed to pretend that the Romans just swooped in one day out of the blue and snatched Jesus. It's politically correct, but not biblical.
Like I stated, Jewish ‘authorities” or not they were only the instruments used to condemn Him but OUR DIRTY ROTTEN SINS put Him on the cross. And BTW, the Roman soldiers beat Him so badly that His face “...was so disfigured beyond that of any man and his form marred beyond human likeness-so will he sprinkle many nations, and kings will shut their mouths because of him.” (see Isaiah 52:13-15)
Isn’t it prejuidice to say that “the british have a long history of anti-semitism”? If something like that was said about the Jews the ADL would freak out.
It is anti-zionist. Plain and simple.
“I think myself that the shocking reply to the Syrophenician woman (it came alright to the end) is to remind all us Gentile Christians-who forget it easily enough and even flirt with anti-Semitism-that the Hebrews are spiritually senior to us, that God did entrust the descendants of Abraham with the first revelation of Himself.” - Letters of C.S. Lewis (14 May 1955), para.3, p. 263.
So you agree, not anti semitic.
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